What is the "real" GVWR?

The brochure we were given when custom ordering our 2014 Spree had the dry weights listed for our model and no mention was made of weight of options or that the wt. increase can be significant. I don't see any explanation as to how the actual tongue weight could be 960 lbs vs. the 518 brochure figure. No explanation as to why we only have 200 lbs of CCC left. We have a new 2014 Spree model coming in the new year (262RKS version, basically same as 261RKS). The dealer was unable to give us any info. on weight of options or what the actual wt. will be as delivered. Basically, we are just going to get whatever we get... Our current Spree has no yellow sticker on it stating the UVW as it was when it left the factory, just a white sticker inside a cabinet door literally within a few lbs of the brochure and website figures. CCC on the sticker on front left with tire data has the same wt. as the brochure & website. I know about their qualifier on weight but it doesn't really help, or explain what one actually ends up with. I see that they have upped the brochure UVW and tongue wt and lowered the CCC for the 2014 version for essentially the same unit. For us, weights on our TT has been a real eye opener and learning experience and it started the day after we took possession of it.

Ron Gratz wrote:

myredracer wrote:
As said, dry weight numbers are fictional. Manufacturers love to use them for marketing purposes to outdo the competition and lure you into buying something that you may not if you knew what the actual weight would be like. The actual weight always goes up. By the time you've ordered options, the dealer adds items (propane tanks, ex.), you installed fixed items (2nd TV, ex.), done some modifications and have it all loaded up for camping, the weight goes up a lot. Typically in the 1,000 - 1,500 lb range, or even more for larger units. The added weight comes right off the advertised cargo carrying capacity and in the end, you could have very little left over. In some cases, you can even end up being overloaded.

It might help to define which "dry weight" numbers you're talking about. For example, the 2012 KZ Spree brochure lists

UVW (Unloaded Vehicle Weight)*

and states,
"

*This weight reflects the rolling average unit weight for each model. Your trailer weight will vary according to optional equipment.

"

There is no way a manufacturer can print a brochure with actual weights for all possible configurations, and no buyer should be surprised that options and other additions are not included in the brochure "dry weight" -- especially when the brochure says they are not.

If you're placing an order for a trailer, the dealer can give you a realistic estimate of weight of options.
If you're buying a trailer off the lot, the weight sticker at the front of the left side is supposed to give the weight of the trailer as it left the factory -- including all factory-installed options plus weight of propane.
If a dealer installs equipment exceeding about 100# total, the sticker is supposed to be amended.

It's not that difficult to come up with a usable estimate of "dry weight" before you purchase a trailer.

The advertised 2735 lbs is bs. The actual won't even be close to that.---

Not necessarily. The 2013 Fun Finder Brochure lists a F-189FBS with Dry Weight = 3155# and GVWR = 5890.
Desert Coach RV lists a 2013 F-189FBS with Dry Weight = 2998# and the following options:
Fun Finder Camping Pack, Fun Finder Exterior and Interior PKG, Fantastic Vent, Convection Microwave Oven, Ultra-Lite Power Jack Pack.
Some dealer websites post values from the manufacturer's brochure, some post values from the trailer's yellow sticker.

Ron