ShinerBock wrote:
Viperpoker wrote:
ShinerBock wrote:
Viperpoker wrote:
I guess since you think GM is stupid for making this truck, you can buy a used 2018 that has a weaker trans, frame, axles, drive shaft, etc. That would be a better truck for you, and wouldn’t be stupid. No pissing match there.
Nope, I would never buy a GM product after what they did to my old man. I own a 2014 Ram CTD and do not plan on getting a new one for at least the next 5 years.
I would also have no problems owning something with a "weaker" frame as long as it can tow the 13k I need it to. Anything else after that is pointless to me. And in my view, anything above 23k in a light duty truck is just a pissing match for bragging rights. That kind of weight should be left to the medium duty trucks.
Also, I think you are confusing things. Just because someone owns a 2020 GM HD(even in the configuration that isn't rated to tow 35k+) doesn't make them stupid. It is the marketing pissing match itself and towing that much weight in a 8k lb light duty truck that I think is stupid. Not sure how you got confused with that.
I drive a Ram ctd also, but am happy that all of the trucks are getting better. I could get a 2001 ram 3500 that is rated to tow about 14,000. I think the newer more capable trucks are better.
I own a Dodge Viper. I have no desire to see them remove two cylinders and make it a V8, even though the v10 is overkill. I guess anything over a vw bug or a smart car is above what is needed, but I like a little more “go” than that.
I also own a charger hellcat. Haven’t seen many hellcat owners saying “I wish it had less hp. 707 hp is too much. Chevy got it right with the 650 hp zl1.” No, what I see is hellcat owners saying “****, the new car is 797 hp. I need to trade”
I tow a 19,000 lb fifth wheel. I may in the future go to a 44 foot toy hauler, and have two or three Harley’s loaded on it. If I do, I would like to have plenty of truck to pull that. And for basically the same price, Ram, Ford, and GM are now about equal. Last year GM was a lot less truck than the other two, but cost about the same.
I started this thread just trying to determine where GM had less than the other two. With the new truck, that has been explained. I don’t think GM is stupid for upgrading their truck. If a 2019 was sitting next to a 2020 for the same price, I am going to choose the one with the much higher rating.
No sure why I was told your life story on what you own.....
I never said GM is stupid for upgrading their truck either. Again, I said I think this whole pissing match that keeps increasing the ratings on a light duty truck is what is stupid. If you are towing that much weight then they should move up to a medium duty just like one has to move up to a half ton to an HD or SRW to DRW with bigger loads. All this is is fanboy bragging rights and I doubt anyone here would buy the regular cab configuration that is required to tow that much.
Nope, I’m towing 19k, possibly 23 or 24k in the future with a big toy hauler. Would rather have the truck capable of towing 35k than the one rated at 23k to pull either load. No bragging rights, just better to have more capability than you need. If your trailer is 13k, you don’t need a ctd. You could find 1500’s rated to tow that. Seems like a 2500/3500 that you own is overkill for that trailer, like trying to win a pissing contest, or bragging rights.
And yes, all of these ratings are based on a regular cab, 2wd, short bed. I think everyone understands that, and when we get our crew cab, 4wd longbed it will reduce the ratings. But that applies across all three manufacturers, and across last years trucks also. So the new Chevy 4wd cc lb won’t tow 35,500, it will be somewhat reduced. It will still be 12,000 better than a 4wd cc lb from last year. Never gonna convince me it is a bad thing that the Chevy has much more capability this year.
