What is the weak link for Chevy max tow ratings?

ShinerBrock Said "So you are going to trade in your crew cab for a regular cab? Cause that is the only way your going to be rated at 35K."

Viperpoker Said "And yes, all of these ratings are based on a regular cab, 2wd, short bed. I think everyone understands that, and when we get our crew cab, 4wd longbed it will reduce the ratings."

Shiner are you just wanting to flap your gums??? He clearly understands there is a reduced capacity when going to a heavier model.

Stir Pot, Stir Pot, wash rinse and repeat, INCREDIBLE.

Ralph Cramden wrote:
After reading through these 11 pages I have a good idea where the weak link is.

Ralph, I usually don't care much for what you have to say but that was **** funny!

ShinerBrock, YOU are the one CONSTANTLY in a "PISSING MATCH". Pick the subject it's the same over and over.

YOU are the one calling a "pissing match".

Us guys that are towing at the top end of the RV market want the most capable truck possible, if that's a "pissing match" OK I am in a pissing match with every other heavy rV hauler out there. ;)

Cummins12V98 wrote:

ShinerBock wrote:
350/3500 are medium duty? So now we have 350/3500's identifying as medium duty. Are trucks now payload/GVWR neutral? So are half tons going to now identify as 1 tons?:h

MD as in they are SAE Rated to tow what the MD trucks were rated to tow a few years ago when the DRW's couldn't tow a 20k RV.

Truck classes go by GVWR, not tow ratings. And I think these 25k+ trailer ratings should still be left to the real medium duty trucks.

"And yes, all of these ratings are based on a regular cab, 2wd, short bed."

Actually 2wd reg cab long bed DRW.

ShinerBock wrote:
350/3500 are medium duty? So now we have 350/3500's identifying as medium duty. Are trucks now payload/GVWR neutral? So are half tons going to now identify as 1 tons?:h

MD as in they are SAE Rated to tow what the MD trucks were rated to tow a few years ago when the DRW's couldn't tow a 20k RV.

Viperpoker wrote:

Lol, I have no idea what your point is, and who is stupid. Either GM is stupid for making this truck, or their customers are stupid for buying it, or people are stupid for admiring it.

I said it multiple times, and not one of what you stated was it.

Viperpoker wrote:
I like Cummins also, it is why I have a Ram. However, given a choice I like the new Ram that is rated at 35k better than the 2012 Ram rated at 23k. I think most people would agree, and very few would have wanted Ram to freeze everything at 2012 levels. Don’t hear a lot of people saying, “I sure wish these tow ratings were lower, like they used to be”

So you are going to trade in your crew cab for a regular cab? Cause that is the only way your going to be rated at 35K.

Also, I would guarantee you that many people here that don't need to tow over 23k wouldn't mind if Ram froze the 2012 ratings at 23k if the cost didn't go up as well which is what happens when you have to add in all the things needed to be able to tow 35k along with the R&D. If people really cared about 35k tow ratings then everyone here would be driving the latest regular cab DRW trucks and traded them in every time the tow ratings went up even if they only need to tow a 5k trailer.

I bet more people would rather Ram spend the R&D money to make the truck more efficient and reliable towing the weight we need to tow rather than to spend it to win a pissing match with another brand on some number that a majority of their customers do not tow. These numbers will keep going up, and they will keep spending money to do it which will increase the costs of all HD trucks as long as there are enough fanboys out there that think having the highest tow ratings is what is important. That is why I think it is stupid.

I guess I am just looking at it from a perspective of someone who has worked for an engine and truck manufacturer, and think it is a waste of money just for bragging rights especially when it increases the cost of my next truck without making it more efficient or reliable. I just think the money would be better spent making a truck that I do not have to keep sending back to the dealer for recalls or on water pumps that last more than 50k.

Ralph Cramden wrote:
After reading through these 11 pages I have a good idea where the weak link is.

:B

After reading through these 11 pages I have a good idea where the weak link is.

ShinerBock wrote:

Viperpoker wrote:
Nope, I’m towing 19k, possibly 23 or 24k in the future with a big toy hauler. Would rather have the truck capable of towing 35k than the one rated at 23k to pull either load. No bragging rights, just better to have more capability than you need. If your trailer is 13k, you don’t need a ctd. You could find 1500’s rated to tow that. Seems like a 2500/3500 that you own is overkill for that trailer, like trying to win a pissing contest, or bragging rights.

The trailer is 12.5k dry and is generally between 13-14k loaded. Sometimes it we will load more depending on the trip and it will be well over 14k. So no, there is no 1500 that is rated to tow that much and I got the right truck for the job. I don't need to say mine is rated to tow some exorbitant amount that I will never tow to make me feel better about what I drive. I am not a one brand only fanboy to care about such things.

Viperpoker wrote:
And yes, all of these ratings are based on a regular cab, 2wd, short bed. I think everyone understands that, and when we get our crew cab, 4wd longbed it will reduce the ratings. But that applies across all three manufacturers, and across last years trucks also. So the new Chevy 4wd cc lb won’t tow 35,500, it will be somewhat reduced. It will still be 12,000 better than a 4wd cc lb from last year. Never gonna convince me it is a bad thing that the Chevy has much more capability this year.

I could care less if all I needed to tow was 19k. If you had a new Ford PSD rated to tow 30k, a new Ram CTD rated to tow just 23k, and a new GM Dmax rated to 30k all being the same price, I would still pick the Ram because of the Cummins. I worked for Cummins, I know how to work on them, and they have proven reliable to me. If another engine would prove just as reliable to me then I would consider that as well. That is what I base my truck decisions on if all are rated to tow what I need them to, not some pissing contest tow rating that I will never tow or even attempt to tow.

Lol, I have no idea what your point is, and who is stupid. Either GM is stupid for making this truck, or their customers are stupid for buying it, or people are stupid for admiring it.

I like Cummins also, it is why I have a Ram. However, given a choice I like the new Ram that is rated at 35k better than the 2012 Ram rated at 23k. I think most people would agree, and very few would have wanted Ram to freeze everything at 2012 levels. Don’t hear a lot of people saying, “I sure wish these tow ratings were lower, like they used to be”