What is unusual/ wrong with these Pickup Trucks?

ShinerBock wrote:
Are you talking to me? If so, I am not a member of any TFL forums. The only forums I have been active in in the past few years that are vehicle related aside from this one is the Cummins forum, a few Ram forums, and a few BMW diesel forums. So I am afraid you have me confused for someone else, again.

Really??? Keyser Soze, posts the same Ford Graphics and Cummins infirmation like you, must be your twin. He even uses the same phrases:R
Now my question to you seeing you got everything else wrong
What is the speed of tow vehicles in the US? inquiring minds would like to know?

Are you talking to me? If so, I am not a member of any TFL forums. The only forums I have been active in in the past few years that are vehicle related aside from this one is the Cummins forum, a few Ram forums, and a few BMW diesel forums. So I am afraid you have me confused for someone else, again.

Keyser Soze as you are known on TFL forums, my post was about a EUROPEAN Pickup Truck, the PHOTOS are EUROPEAN VEHICLES. Australia is not part of tbe picture.They do have some hills in Europe called Alps
Tbose photos showed US Pickups that were sold at dealerships in Australia, now disappeard. Your post was total B/S and way off the mark
Try your industry "facts" back at TFL Truck. By tbe way how is your clapped out Honda going?
Also what are the towing speeds for tow vehicles in the US?

Bedlam wrote:

valhalla360 wrote:
Europe has plenty of pickups. It's just that they are usually configured with Van cockpits and flatbeds with removable sides.

Mostly get used for commercial work. Not so much as grocery getters.

I don't see them much more capable than a cutaway E450 although they do have more engine variations. Europe is much more constrained by road width and regulations which makes these more popular. I'm sure more pickups would be sold in Australia if the costs were not so high for such a low volume market so far away. When you're on a sparsely populated island, costs are always higher and selection poorer.

I agree, it is not much more capable than an E450 although a lot of that has to do with what you stated and the fact that our vehicle classes are at different weights than Australia. Our Class 1, 2A, and lower 2B vehicles below 9,920 lbs(4,500 kg) GVWR are in Australia C class. Our higher 10k GVWR 2B, 3, and class 4 are in Australia's class LR which is from 9,921 lbs to 17,637 lbs (8,000 kg).

So our 150/1500 and some lower GVWR 2500's like the Ram Power Wagon or Titan XD would be in Australia's class C, and most other diesel/big gas 250/2500, 350/3500, and 450/4500 would be in Australia's LR class. Our 550/5500 class 5 vehicles would be in Australia's MR Class.

The main draw back to these Iveco chassis vans that are shown is that they only come with a 210 hp 3.0L diesel engine. This may be fine for flat landing, lower elevations, and slower road speeds for Australian tow vehicles, but will not work to well in our higher elevations, steeper grades, and faster average road speeds for tow vehicles here in the US and Canada.


Edit: I forgot to mention that our midsize trucks like the Colorado and Ranger are in class 1 here which is capped at 6,000 lbs (2,722 kg) GVWR so they are in Australia's class C as well, but on the very low end.

Bedlam wrote:

valhalla360 wrote:
Europe has plenty of pickups. It's just that they are usually configured with Van cockpits and flatbeds with removable sides.

Mostly get used for commercial work. Not so much as grocery getters.

I don't see them much more capable than a cutaway E450 although they do have more engine variations. Europe is much more constrained by road width and regulations which makes these more popular. I'm sure more pickups would be sold in Australia if the costs were not so high for such a low volume market so far away. When you're on a sparsely populated island, costs are always higher and selection poorer.

This is when US Pickups were sold from Ford Dealerships in Australia. A 1998 by the looks of it F150, with a 351 cu in engine, I took this photo in Dec 2017

A Silverado with a Caravan

A Dually notice the Bull bars in the front

Old Islander wrote:
Back in the late 60's and early 70's, I had a friend who drove a '65 Bedford van much like this one ...



He put a 100K on it, without any serious problems (unlike many English cars of the day...). It was pretty cool -- in the summer, he drove it with the doors open.

Used it for business and ahhhh... pleasure...! ;)

You can notice some similarities with this early 1960's Cheverolet Van

Bedlam wrote:

valhalla360 wrote:
Europe has plenty of pickups. It's just that they are usually configured with Van cockpits and flatbeds with removable sides.

Mostly get used for commercial work. Not so much as grocery getters.

I don't see them much more capable than a cutaway E450 although they do have more engine variations. Europe is much more constrained by road width and regulations which makes these more popular. I'm sure more pickups would be sold in Australia if the costs were not so high for such a low volume market so far away. When you're on a sparsely populated island, costs are always higher and selection poorer.

No costs really only part of the picture. A Vast range of US Pickups were sold in Australia till the early 2000's from dealerships, since then they had to be converted by importers, expensive business
Bit more effective then the E450. That IVECO can be optioned to have a 10,000lb payload and the 4x4 version is like A Unimog Off Road

gbopp wrote:

RobertRyan wrote:

gbopp wrote:
Bedford Trucks?

Go to the top of the Class. Yes they are the GM Bedford Pickup Truck, produced in England.

The body style reminds me of International Harvester pickup trucks. :)

Then Bedford was the Vauxhall GM owned Truck Division

^ very cool - wish I could get one of those.

Well - we used my Ram 3500 CTD to go out for sushi Friday evening, and then stopped at Publix on the way home....

Back in the late 60's and early 70's, I had a friend who drove a '65 Bedford van much like this one ...



He put a 100K on it, without any serious problems (unlike many English cars of the day...). It was pretty cool -- in the summer, he drove it with the doors open.

Used it for business and ahhhh... pleasure...! ;)