Why all the hate on 1/2 ton tvs

handye9 wrote:

spoon059 wrote:
No idea if your WDH was properly set up on the old half ton OR the new 3/4 ton. Yes, the hitch was set up properly, on both trucks. I didn't have sway issues. When I was pushed around by the wind, it was truck and trailer together, like one unit. Well, sorry that your vehicle was pushed by the wind. I hate to tell you this, but it will still happen even with a heavier trailer.

Its not a direct comparison between vehicles. I was relating personal experiences. Apparently, you have issues with that. I have no "issues with that. I was pointing out that you aren't comparing apples to apples. Sorry if that upset you.

I still believe that there is no reason that towing within your numbers with a properly set up vehicle would cause "white knuckle" situations. I would agree with that. If you had actually read and understood what I wrote, rather than trying to find points to argue, you would have noticed that I was right on the edge and frequently "not" within my numbers. It's possible, I was not within my numbers, all the time. Well, then you would have been part of the problem. I'd be willing to bet that you won't find the drive as nice in your 3/4 ton if you overloaded that as well. The fact that you pushed the numbers and exceeded what the manufacturer recommended for your vehicle does NOT mean that there is a problem with the vehicle... its a problem with the driver.

Cramps and back aches...? Those came with the white knuckles and being tensed up for hours at a time. Some of those trips were 12 hour rides. I don't know if you've been there, but, North Dakota, Minnesota, and Wisconsin have a lot of wind and on I-94, it's almost always coming at you from the side. Sometimes to a point where big rigs will pull over and wait it out. Maybe, I should have mentioned, where I was having the wind issues. Again... you overload your vehicle to the point that you are "white knuckled" and you blame the vehicle? That's like blaming a spoon because you got fat.

Not sure how that has ANYTHING to do with half ton vs 3/4 ton. Apparently, you skipped over the part where I said I would probably still have a 1/2 ton, if it had not been for a truck camper. Not sure that having an overloaded 1/2 ton is relevant...

That just sounds like a comfort issue between brands. I guess, being more relaxed would be a comfort issue. I agree... but that doesn't have anything to do with half ton vs 3/4 ton. It has everything to do with what brand truck you had. Its irrelevant to the argument (we will get to that word in a minute)

I don't think there is any question that a 3/4 ton tows better. I would agree with that, too. Some things it doesn't do better are, it really likes gas, lots of gas, and it won't fit in the garage. We agree on something =)!

That isn't the argument. Had I known, this needed to be an argument, I would have skipped over it. An argument need not be heated, an argument is simply an exchange of differing ideas. You seem to present the idea that a half ton isn't a competent tow vehicle. I am presenting the idea that it IS a competent tow vehicle when you are towing within your weights. Those are different ideas. We are exchanging those different ideas. That, by definition, is an ARGUMENT.

A 1 ton tows better than your 3/4 ton... why didn't you buy that? Again, if you read what I wrote, it says "I didn't buy the 3/4 ton until I had a truck camper to carry around". The towing improvement was an added benefit. If there had been a 1 ton sitting on the lot, with same kind of options, for same price, I probably would have bought that. One ton would be better for the truck camper. And a 550 or 5500 with a bed would be better than a 1 ton. If Toyota had a 1 ton dually on the lot for the same price as my Tundra than I might have considered it too. What is your point?

A dually tows better than a single tire... why didn't you buy that? Had one, didn't like it. And I have driven a 3/4 ton diesel... didn't like it. It rode like a tank, it was loud and smelled terrible all the time. Since I didn't need a 3/4 ton diesel, I didn't get one. You didn't need a 1 ton for your needs, I don't need a 3/4 ton for mine.

Do you get the point yet? Only point I'm getting is, you seem to get some kind of pleasure out of arguments. Like I said... some people will just never get it...

My half ton is more than enough truck for my current trailer. I went back and read my post, several times. I can't find where I mentioned anything about your setup. I'm sorry, you aren't the only person replying to this thread. I was making a point that goes beyond your post.

My WDH is properly set up and my tongue weight is sufficient. Never had ANY sway. Never felt pushed around by the weather. I'll have to take your word for that. Sounds like you are well within your numbers and you really like your Tundra. I liked mine too, but, it wasn't built to carry 2500 lbs of truck camper. Thankfully I don't need to carry around 2500 lbs of anything in my Tundra. That is why I have it and that is why I like it. I have enough payload for my family and my camper. No need to spend more money or get a harsher ride. I feel as though I am safe and I know I am within my weights.

Never had a cramp or back ache... whatever that has to do with the argument. Here we go with that argument thing again. See definition of argument above.

I think I've covered covered all your questions and concerns. At least, all that I'm going to.

Have a nice day !!!