nohurry wrote:
ShinerBock wrote:
nohurry wrote:
:h Why are you guys pining for the old days? The Ford 6.2 has so far been very solid. 385 HP, and 430 Tq. Pair that with the 4:30 gears, and 6 speed, what more could you want from a gas engine? The big blocks up to the 90's didn't do that much. Oh yeah, you want diesel like performance, and mileage. Not gonna happen. You want gas? The current crop of V8's no matter which brand you choose will do a fine job towing within their specs. Yes, you'll be in the high RPM ranges, but that's the nature of the beast. They're made for it. The gap between gas and diesel won't be closed. Nowadays, you have to choose.
That is what they said about the half ton towing engines......until the 3.5L Ecoboost came out.
Although I didn't want just an old engine. As I said, I wanted something like the old iron block 300(4.9L) that was well known for its reliablity brought up to snuff with modern technology like variable valve timing, variable ignition, 4 valves per cylinder, direct injection, and turbocharged with modern turbos. Something like that could easily make 380 hp and 500 lb-ft at a much more usable 2,500 rpm. Not only that, but it wouldn't suffer the altitude power loss like the current N/A gasser V8s do
Point taken shiner, but I think (and this only a guess), that the only thing close to that we will see is a slightly bigger V6 EcoBoost for the Superduty. My reasoning for that is; the current 3.5 EcoBoost matches, or beats the 6.2 for power but I think it's a psychological thing that the SD should have a bigger one. So, when Ford feels like the EcoBoost has gained enough confidence from the public, they'll develop (or are now deleloping) a slightly bigger one, which should easily hit the 500 lb ft mark you mentioned, but in a V6, not a V8. As I say, this is just speculation on my part, so we'll see.
This kind of reminds me of when the 5.9L Cummins Turbo Diesel first came out in 1989. At the time, Ford had the N/A V8 7.3L diesel and every Ford owner back then talked about the unreliability of turbos, how a V8 is needed over a straight six, and how it was too small to compete with the 7.3L. It didn't take long to shut them up and for Ford to add turbos in 1993 and direct injection in 1994 giving birth to the Powerstroke moniker.
