When we bought our TH from Holemans they had it listed online as a end of year closeout at a price that was several thousand below anything I could find in this part of the country. I showed this to a couple local dealers and they were unwilling to even lower their best offer which was a lot higher already. I called Holemans up and offered 5K less than they had it online fully expecting them to decline which they nicely did. They offered 1k less than advertised but I declined and told them I would think about it. The next day they called back and said if my offer was still good they would accept it. I agreed and we bought it . Its always worth a try and be patient. sometimes what many consider an unreasonable offer may be accepted. Worst than can happen is a No.