Hello,Wife and I have narrowed our search down to either the Apex Nano 187rb or the wolf pup 16fq due to layout (walk around queen, full fridge, dry bath) and weight.Apexhttp://www.coachmenrv.com/product-details.aspx?LineID=62&ModelID=1594Wolf puphttp://www.forestriverinc.com/product-details.aspx?LineID=177&ShowParent=1&ModelID=1332#MainAny feedback as to what one would have the better buid quality / longevity out of the two?The Apex is fancier looking on the outside and a few thousand dollars more, has an aluminum skeleton and the fiberglass azdel siding. The wolf pup has really nice stairs is stick built and has aluminum siding.

Personally I would want the fiberglass and Azdel. I own a Cherokee product and have been pleased with it but I feel the construction of the Apex is better.

I'd take the Apex over the Wolf Pup any day. Biggest concern with both is the CCC. The Apex is really really low. If this is your 1st TT and you have a tow vehicle that can tow more weight I'd seriously look at something larger with tandem axles. We started with the same layout and it got old real fast. We came from tents and it seemed like a castle. Problem was it soon felt like a studio apartment. A dinette slide would really open things up. BTDT

Another vote for Apex.... Quick glance: Larger holding tanks and a Pantry.

We just sold our 1st trailer a 13ft scamp it had 10ft of living space 13ft tip to tail with full kitchen, full bath and a bed it was a little tight.Our choices are limited right now by our tow vehicle but it is the only truck that will fit in our garage, it is paid for and we are about 5 years out from retirement when we will buy a larger vehicle and probably a 5th wheel2016 Nissan frontier6100 lb towing capacity610 lb hitch1157 lb payload (from sticker on door)11,230 GCWRPretty good torque from the V6, been pondering the 191rbs it has the walk around bed and a nice slide W dinette. Its about 325 lbs more than the ones listed above and still under my self imposed under 3500 lb as shipped dry weight.

colliehauler is right. The Azdel used in the trailer is a hidden assetSo, another Apex vote

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the_fixer1
Explorer
Sep 17, 2018
Thanks for the help we have decided on the apex nano 191rbs!
the_fixer1
Explorer
Sep 13, 2018
I guess that is a resounding vote for the Apex Nano.

We are going to look at one this weekend :)

Thanks
Larry-D
Explorer II
Sep 12, 2018
Had the Wolf Pup. Had no problems with the trailer or its quality. Of the two the Apex would be my choice because it has a closet.
the_fixer1
Explorer
Sep 12, 2018
I am fine with used just have not been able to find anything with a non crawlover bed, large fridge in a weight I can pull.
GrandpaKip
Explorer II
Sep 12, 2018
If you are thinking of upgrading in a few years, why not go used? Save the depreciation hit.
I used the gross weight of 6100# as a limit when we were looking.
Our camper has a gross of 6000# and is under 5000# loaded to the gills.
The Coachmen definitely has a few fans on here.
the_fixer1
Explorer
Sep 12, 2018
Both of the units I am looking at come with the large fridge
trail-explorer
Explorer
Sep 12, 2018
APEX again, due to the Fridge and Freezer, which is HUGE.
trail-explorer
Explorer
Sep 12, 2018
downtheroad wrote:
Another vote for Apex.... Quick glance: Larger holding tanks and a Pantry.

Ditto
AND, cabinet doors on the upper cabinets that open to the side (like residential cabinets instead of to the ceiling.
I hate cabinets the open to the ceiling.
Lwiddis
Explorer II
Sep 12, 2018
I’m not a fan of single axel TTs and you won’t be either when you blow a tire. The Pup’s max weight is 4999 pounds. After subtracting tongue weight you’ll have over 2000 pounds on each tire at max weight. That’s TOO much.
FrankShore
Explorer
Sep 12, 2018
colliehauler is right. The Azdel used in the trailer is a hidden asset

So, another Apex vote

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