Wow big Christmas in our house this year

realter wrote:
I see you are from the town of Wal Mart hdq. From what I read, all their employees are on welfare and begging for food. I take it you don't work there?

My wife and I are retired and moved here. The Wal MArt people here are not begging for food and such. That was for the retail stores that was reported. The folks at hdg. are paid a lot more money. Where I live there are quite a few Wal Mart employees living and the houses start in the upper $200,000 to over $500,000. My next door neighbor is an exec that is in charge of the organization that does international web site. They seem to make enough money that their wives can stay home and take care of the kids. We also have quite a few us retires that live in this development that did not work for Wal Mart but moved here to retire.

I see you are from the town of Wal Mart hdq. From what I read, all their employees are on welfare and begging for food. I take it you don't work there?

Well after a lot of thought I decided to try to step up from the 7X12 to a 7X14. I called the dealer that I ordered through and he thought it would be to late as it is already in the process. He called and the factory told him that they could change it if I decided that day as they were getting ready to start my trailer.

So I made the decision and now I have a 7X14 on order. I can't wait for it to get here and for the weather to warm up a little so I can work on it. I need to add E Track to it and a front wheel chock for the Harley for the front tire. I also want to paint the sides (the floor is already painted). Also want to get a platform built for the front tongue so I can mount my Yamaha 3000I SEB generator there. Then I don't have to take it in and out of the trailer. When we get to a camp site I can remove the generator cover and hook the camper up to it. Then when I need it all I have to do is hit the remote start and let the genny fire up.

The Road Force is about the same as the Haulmark Transport line of trailers. But there are a couple of differences the Road Force has the Torflex axles compared to the spring suspension in the Transport. Also the Transport has a 3 year warranty and the Road Force has a 4 year. Other than that they are pretty much the same.

Yea I knew the UTC had bought out Wells Cargo. Hopefully my trailer lasts a lot of years. It doesn't need to last 17 years as by then I won't be hauling much because of age most of those toys are going to be gone and I'll mostly be riding the rocking chair if I'm still on the green side of the grass.

Wells Cargo pioneered the enclosed trailer industry back in the 50s. It's now ownerd by a larger compnay, which also owns Haulmark. THe name of the parent company is Universal Trailer.

Originally, Wells Cargo only made one line of trailers. A bunch of newcomers (new trailer companies) came along and started taking market share away from Wells Cargo by making cheaper trailers, so Wells Cargo developed the Road Force line.

The Road Force line of trailers originally was based on a design of the "Wells Cargo" line of trailers, with some minor changes, to reduce the cost some. In about 2011 or 2012, when Wells Cargo and Haulmark became owned by the same company, the original Road Force design was dropped and the Road Force name transferred to one of the Haulmark trailers.

The Road Force trailer I have is the original style, which in some ways I like better than the new style.

Nowadays, there's even a cheaper line of trailer made by Wells Cargo / Haulmark.... all because of market demand and the other companies making cheaper trailers. Haulmark calls it the Passport, Wells Cargo calls it the Fastrack.

The Wells Cargo website doesn't show all the model lines.

My first trailer was a Well Cargo Tote Wagon (6x10). I bought it in 1993 and had it for 17 years. It was practically bomb proof. I put a lot of miles on that thing and it's still inservice by the new owner.

I'm partial to the Wells Cargo trailers because of a very supportive dealer and because I've been around them for so long.

I contemplated long and hard when buying my 6x12. I almost bought a 7x14. I didn't, because I only had limited space to store it (width) and I also wanted something I could tow behind my Jeep (6' width ok, 7' too wide for the TJ or JK)

Bedlam wrote:
It sounds like you also sized the trailer so you could tow it behind the Jeep when needed. Will your DW let you drive it or are you a designated passenger?

Yea there was some of that thought there also. The Jeep has a tow limit of 6200# and it has the tow package from the factory and comes with a 4 pin and a 7 pin plug and a class 4 hitch. It has a heavier cooling package and 220 amp alternator and self leveling rear (now I have no idea what that one is). The Jeep is Trail Rated. It comes with the plug to hook up a brake controller in the cab of the unit. Wire the cable to the brake controller and plug it in and it is a go.

I think she well let me drive it once in awhile. We really don't designate who drives a vehicle or not. She let me use her Highlander to tow the flatbed trailer with the ATV when I went riding so I think she well let me use it

It sounds like you also sized the trailer so you could tow it behind the Jeep when needed. Will your DW let you drive it or are you a designated passenger?

Sorry double post AGAIN. :M

Mike Hohnstein wrote:
You will have regrets soon, shoulda got a 16'.

Well even if I regret it, it is done. I really don't have room for any bigger to stow it away. I mean I have plenty of yard but not any more room with concrete to park it on and I'm not adding any more concrete.:B

Bedlam wrote:


You may not need an equalizing hitch for your size trailer, but look into them if the tongue weight starts encroaching too much on your rear axle weight linits.

I have presently right at 2650# more capacity till I reach the rear GAWR. The tires have more capacity than that. It makes a big difference since I got the dually.

My empty weight on mine is 1900# so I should have plenty of capacity and I won't have enough room to overload it probably. :h

deltabravo wrote:
Congrats on the new trailer. 7x12 is a rare size for a trailer. I wish I had a 7' trailer. My 6 wide lacks space I wish I had.

6' wide is a nuisance to back up because I can't see it. By the time i see it in the mirrors, it's crooked.

Torflex axles are the only way to go on cargo trailers.

I know the size is different as most 12' ones are either 6' wide and a lot of the time it is a single axle. I wanted the additional capacity and the tandem axle with brakes on both.


From everything I read it appears that Wells Cargo are a good brand and after searching the internet for the Road Force line of them I didn't find anything negative on this line. It seemed it had a lot of bang for the buck. I looked at another brand and it looked interesting had 12" extra height but with regular spring axles. The dealer told me that Torflex axles cost him about $800 more than the standard axles. After doing some research on that brand there were a lot of negative comments on the web about this brand. So I decided to pass on this one and glad I did. The one I'm buying is a little more but in the long run I believe it is a better trailer.

Thanks for every bodies comments on everything. My wife also had a real neat gift made up for me. She put together a collection of our pictures from the Alaska trip this year and had Sam's make up a couple of books of our pictures. It is pretty neat, on the cover there is a picture and on the binding there is the name and Book 1 and Book 2. She said it was really hard to figure out which 500 pictures to put into them with over 10,000 pictures that we took on our trip to pick from. We picked up my wife's new Jeep on the 24th but it had to go back to the dealer today to change to the tires I wanted on it and to be detailed. It was a dealer exchange. So when we took it in today they loaned us a Grand Cherokee Overland to drive for today. It was the same one we had before they got our in. We normally don't finance vehicles but they gave us 0% for 36 months. We figured heck why take our money out of the bank where it is making a little bit of interest. If they want to loan me money at 0% I'll take it. Now we'll see how long it takes before my wife gets tired of making payments and pays it off. :S

Now I have to start getting the jeep set up so we can tow it behind the TC. Does it ever end. :B

Congrats on the new trailer. 7x12 is a rare size for a trailer. I wish I had a 7' trailer. My 6 wide lacks space I wish I had.

6' wide is a nuisance to back up because I can't see it. By the time i see it in the mirrors, it's crooked.

Torflex axles are the only way to go on cargo trailers.