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Mar 25, 2018

Wow Pop Ups are expensive!

Honestly, we don't camp a whole lot anymore with all the kids activities and my work schedule. Since the camper sits most of the time, while the caulking goes bad, I got sick of paying for the labor costs to do all the caulking. I simply have bad knees and a lack of time to do it myself.

Well after looking at several Rockwood pop ups, Freedom and Premier series, I found it cheaper to let the Jay Flight sit and pay the caulking repairs than to get a new Pop Up which have far few maintenance costs.

The Premier 2516G and 2716G were the same cost as the dealers Wildwood Travel Trailer that had the same floorplan as my Jay Flight 26BH. Unbelievable how much manufacturers are asking for tent on wheels. They are just pricing themselves out of a job. None of the other dealers within 3 hours even had a camper I'd consider as either none had an indoor toilet/shower or have any pop ups at all.

Can't believe that these makers are pricing these pop ups out of existence.

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Since the camper sits most of the time, while the caulking goes bad, I got sick of paying for the labor costs to do all the caulking. I simply have bad knees and a lack of time to do it myself.

Well after looking at several Rockwood pop ups, Freedom and Premier series, I found it cheaper to let the Jay Flight sit and pay the caulking repairs than to get a new Pop Up which have far few maintenance costs.

The Premier 2516G and 2716G were the same cost as the dealers Wildwood Travel Trailer that had the same floorplan as my Jay Flight 26BH. Unbelievable how much manufacturers are asking for tent on wheels. They are just pricing themselves out of a job. None of the other dealers within 3 hours even had a camper I'd consider as either none had an indoor toilet/shower or have any pop ups at all.

Can't believe that these makers are pricing these pop ups out of existence.","body@stringLength":"1006","rawBody":"Honestly, we don't camp a whole lot anymore with all the kids activities and my work schedule. Since the camper sits most of the time, while the caulking goes bad, I got sick of paying for the labor costs to do all the caulking. I simply have bad knees and a lack of time to do it myself.

Well after looking at several Rockwood pop ups, Freedom and Premier series, I found it cheaper to let the Jay Flight sit and pay the caulking repairs than to get a new Pop Up which have far few maintenance costs.

The Premier 2516G and 2716G were the same cost as the dealers Wildwood Travel Trailer that had the same floorplan as my Jay Flight 26BH. Unbelievable how much manufacturers are asking for tent on wheels. They are just pricing themselves out of a job. None of the other dealers within 3 hours even had a camper I'd consider as either none had an indoor toilet/shower or have any pop ups at all.

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Notice the cost difference between a 15ft and 35 ft trailer. not a lot, both have all the same starting stuff. the fridge, oven, stove, microwave, holding tanks, water heater, charger, furnace, shower, fridge, on and on are pretty much the same.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2018-03-27T21:46:03.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2018-03-27T21:46:03.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":395},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:2904029/message:2904076","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"customFields":[]},"User:user:90258":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:90258","uid":90258,"login":"gheicher","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2007-03-03T04:10:00.000-08:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-10.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:90258"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2904075":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2904075","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2904075":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:90258"},"id":"message:2904075","revisionNum":1,"uid":2904075,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2904029"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2904029"},"subject":"Re: Wow Pop Ups are expensive!","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2904075"},"body":"
drsteve wrote:
.....It is a tent on wheels with a propane system. Do they currently even offer such a bare bones unit?

The closest camper I know of presently is made by LivinLight. Probably talking about $12K plus for a new one.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2018-03-27T15:18:56.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2018-03-27T15:18:56.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":394},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:2904029/message:2904075","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"customFields":[]},"User:user:1991":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:1991","uid":1991,"login":"drsteve","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2006-06-09T17:50:18.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-7.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:1991"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2904074":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2904074","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2904074":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:1991"},"id":"message:2904074","revisionNum":1,"uid":2904074,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2904029"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2904029"},"subject":"Re: Wow Pop Ups are expensive!","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2904074"},"body":"I suspect the price increase is due to having more bells and whistles.

My '91 Palomino, for example, has two beds, a dinette, a stovetop, and a furnace. That's it. There's a small fresh water tank, and a hand pump at the sink. No fridge. No bathroom. No waste tanks. No slide out. No A/C. Raises with a hand crank. So light it doesn't even need brakes.

It is a tent on wheels with a propane system. Do they currently even offer such a bare bones unit?","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2018-03-27T11:18:34.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2018-03-27T11:18:34.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":394},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:2904029/message:2904074","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"customFields":[]},"User:user:192433":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:192433","uid":192433,"login":"SoundGuy","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2015-02-11T04:00:35.000-08:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-3.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:192433"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2904073":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2904073","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2904073":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:192433"},"id":"message:2904073","revisionNum":1,"uid":2904073,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2904029"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2904029"},"subject":"Re: Wow Pop Ups are expensive!","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2904073"},"body":"
Mike Up wrote:
........Can't believe that these makers are pricing these pop ups out of existence.


gheicher wrote:
My friend, who is an executive in the pop-up manufacturing business, states that pups are very difficult to build. Many more separate parts than a TT plus needs complicated lift system. That plus the decreasing volume of pups now being sold, just exacerbates the situation.


Hindsight is a great thing so in looking back on my own experience thinking I could just replace our travel trailer with an inexpensive used popup for occasional use I'm convinced now my mistake was in not choosing some sort of small hard wall trailer. In my own defense though I did make an effort, taking an out of town trip to dealer who had a sizeable stock of R-Pod trailers, but boy were they expensive, even used ones were 3x what I paid for the Coleman Yuma I eventually did buy. I also tried to find a hard wall Coleman Tacoma that was produced for just one model year but they're very rare and any that do exist are priced far more than they're worth, at least to me. I also visited the nearby distributor for ALiner, but again even well used ones were way beyond what I was willing to spend, ergo I ended up with a popup. It was a conundrum to be sure so I understand fully the OP's predicament.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2018-03-27T11:01:35.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2018-03-27T11:01:35.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":394},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:2904029/message:2904073","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"customFields":[]},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2904072":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2904072","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2904072":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:90258"},"id":"message:2904072","revisionNum":1,"uid":2904072,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2904029"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2904029"},"subject":"Re: Wow Pop Ups are expensive!","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2904072"},"body":"
Mike Up wrote:
........Can't believe that these makers are pricing these pop ups out of existence.

My friend, who is an executive in the pop-up manufacturing business, states that pups are very difficult to build. Many more separate parts than a TT plus needs complicated lift system. That plus the decreasing volume of pups now being sold, just exacerbates the situation.

Its a bit sad since pop-ups were the standard family camper for many year - Now it seem more people are looking for convenience. The pop-up still has a lot to offer especially with small children experiencing the great outdoors. My original camper was just a tent on wheels but now I have a TT with a real bathroom, fridge, and AC. While tent trailers can still be purchased, they are not really flying off the shelf.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2018-03-27T10:13:19.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2018-03-27T10:13:19.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":395},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:2904029/message:2904072","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2904071":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2904071","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2904071":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:192433"},"id":"message:2904071","revisionNum":1,"uid":2904071,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2904029"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2904029"},"subject":"Re: Wow Pop Ups are expensive!","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2904071"},"body":"
rbpru wrote:
I meant to point out that money is not the only PUP vs TT decision.


For the OP who is well experienced with both popups and travel trailers and who initiated this discussion himself, a popup it seems would once again work just fine for him, in which case \"money\" really does seem to be his only concern.

rbpru wrote:
In the end it is a hobby, there is no way to justify or dismiss another's choice.


For sure, the OP's final decision is his alone to make ... I just happen to disagree with his math. ;)","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2018-03-27T09:31:01.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2018-03-27T09:31:01.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":394},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:2904029/message:2904071","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"User:user:1762":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:1762","uid":1762,"login":"rbpru","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2013-12-18T15:07:24.000-08:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-11.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:41"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:1762"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2904070":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2904070","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2904070":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:1762"},"id":"message:2904070","revisionNum":1,"uid":2904070,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2904029"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2904029"},"subject":"Re: Wow Pop Ups are expensive!","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2904070"},"body":"Unfortunately, there is no practical solution to the OPs comments. I meant to point out that money is not the only PUP vs TT decision.

I am curious what percentage of the cost increase is due to increased options vs. inflation and lower volume.

In the end it is a hobby, there is no way to justify or dismiss another's choice.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2018-03-27T07:48:21.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2018-03-27T07:48:21.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":394},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:2904029/message:2904070","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2904069":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2904069","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2904069":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:192433"},"id":"message:2904069","revisionNum":1,"uid":2904069,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2904029"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2904029"},"subject":"Re: Wow Pop Ups are expensive!","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2904069"},"body":"
rbpru wrote:
There is far more to PUPs vs TTs than just costs and convenience. If they are your only measure than PUPs are cheaper TTs are more convenient.


That's not the OP's dilemma - he's not a newbie, has been in the game a long time, has owned popups before and isn't looking for an edumacation on the differences between camping in a popup vs camping in a travel trailer. Rather, he's in the same situation many of us have found ourselves in - plenty of years of camping, progression from tents, to popups, to TTs, etc, but then times change, that trailer begins to sit more and more yet continues to depreciate and incur ongoing maintenance & ownership expenses. Selling it is easy but then what? ... once it's gone, it's gone, which would mean no more camping, unless in a tent. The solution - a popup that is and always has been a quantum leap up from camping in a tent but without the significant costs of a travel trailer. I tried going back to a popup myself for this exact reason but it didn't work for us, the OP is a different person and obviously has decided that it would, EXCEPT his brand of math tells him he'd be better off financially keeping his TT. My math says otherwise and I'm convinced that if he wants to stay in the game for years more while minimizing his costs for a camper he won't use much then he'd be much better off in the long run to get rid of his aging TT and buy that new popup he likes so much. He disagrees, as is his right, as it's also his right to call an end to this debate. ;)","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2018-03-27T05:18:27.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2018-03-27T05:18:27.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":395},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:2904029/message:2904069","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2904068":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2904068","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2904068":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:1762"},"id":"message:2904068","revisionNum":1,"uid":2904068,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2904029"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2904029"},"subject":"Re: Wow Pop Ups are expensive!","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2904068"},"body":"There is far more to PUPs vs TTs than just costs and convenience. If they are your only measure than PUPs are cheaper TTs are more convenient.

There are many subtle nuances to camping which also include the so called inconveniences of wet, cold, smoke and etc.

If those are not important to you then all you have to do is choose cost verses convenience.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2018-03-26T17:07:35.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2018-03-26T17:07:35.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":394},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:2904029/message:2904068","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2904067":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2904067","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2904067":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:63710"},"id":"message:2904067","revisionNum":1,"uid":2904067,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2904029"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2904029"},"subject":"Re: Wow Pop Ups are expensive!","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2904067"},"body":"
time2roll wrote:
Mike Up wrote:
Everyone here has stated how they sold their pop ups to a third owner, after buying used. I have looked used, they're junk here privately and through dealers. Then dealers who seem to have the most units, are way over priced for junk. It's only reasonable to buy new unless you're a sucker.
Yes when I bought mine used it was a cream puff. Dentist had bought new and camped twice in two years. Still had the fresh vinyl smell when opened. Was stored in his garage while the corvette sat outside. He wanted $12,000. I showed up with $6,000 cash and ended up walking away. He called later and we agreed on $6,500 and settled the next day.

Maybe some luck but a wad of $100 bills is very enticing. Keep looking, something will come along that works.


I think we're done for now. We'll stick to camping in the Travel Trailer and if we sell it, maybe tents.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2018-03-26T08:36:29.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2018-03-26T08:36:29.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":395},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:2904029/message:2904067","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/community/NavbarDropdownToggle-1737758442181":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/community/NavbarDropdownToggle-1737758442181","value":{"ariaLabelClosed":"Press the down arrow to open the menu"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/messages/EscalatedMessageBanner-1737758442181":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/messages/EscalatedMessageBanner-1737758442181","value":{"escalationMessage":"Escalated to Salesforce by {username} on {date}","viewDetails":"View Details","modalTitle":"Case Details","escalatedBy":"Escalated by: ","escalatedOn":"Escalated on: ","caseNumber":"Case Number: ","status":"Status: ","lastUpdateDate":"Last Update: ","automaticEscalation":"automatic escalation","anonymous":"Anonymous"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/users/UserLink-1737758442181":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/users/UserLink-1737758442181","value":{"authorName":"View Profile: {author}","anonymous":"Anonymous"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-shared/client/components/users/UserRank-1737758442181":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-shared/client/components/users/UserRank-1737758442181","value":{"rankName":"{rankName}","userRank":"Author rank {rankName}"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/messages/MessageTime-1737758442181":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/messages/MessageTime-1737758442181","value":{"postTime":"Published: {time}","lastPublishTime":"Last Update: {time}","conversation.lastPostingActivityTime":"Last posting activity time: {time}","conversation.lastPostTime":"Last post time: {time}","moderationData.rejectTime":"Rejected time: {time}"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/messages/MessageSolvedBadge-1737758442181":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/messages/MessageSolvedBadge-1737758442181","value":{"solved":"Solved"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/messages/MessageSubject-1737758442181":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/messages/MessageSubject-1737758442181","value":{"noSubject":"(no subject)"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/messages/MessageBody-1737758442181":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/messages/MessageBody-1737758442181","value":{"showMessageBody":"Show More","mentionsErrorTitle":"{mentionsType, select, board {Board} user {User} message {Message} other {}} No Longer Available","mentionsErrorMessage":"The {mentionsType} you are trying to view has been removed from the community.","videoProcessing":"Video is being processed. 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