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tbchristian3
Explorer III
Jan 04, 2024
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Front end bounces horribly when going over 55 mph

Hello everyone, 

I have gone through most of the posts for cab over bouncing and I can't seem to find a solution that fits my current set up. 

I have a 2015 GMC Sierra 1500 5.3 L V8 4X4 Crew Cab.

The slide in camper is a sun lite pop up but I am not sure of the model number or exact weight. Unfortunately the guy I bought it from didn't have any info on it. He said he though it weighed roughly 1000 lbs. 

What I do know is the camper only sticks out a few inches past the tail gate so it's roughly 6ft long inside the bed. My bed is the 5.5 ft (the shortest bed they have in a 1500). I have the Happijac camper tie downs installed in between the cab and bed and tie downs mounted to the back bumper. I used a regular set of turnbuckles off of amazon. They are Brophy Machine Works brand and have a tensile strength of 2100 lbs.

The issue I am having is that when I get up to 55 mph or higher the front end of my truck starts to bounces uncontrollably. I have tried adjusting tire pressure and tightening the turnbuckles but neither of those things helped at all.  Any other pointers? is the camper to heavy for my truck? Is it a WD problem?

Here's a pic:

  • Grit_dog's avatar
    Grit_dog
    Jan 09, 2024

    Not likely the issue at all. 
    I feel like I asked a couple few questions you haven’t answered. As have others. 
    what’s under it for suspension?

    what you got for tires and pressure?

    what kind of road, asphalt or concrete?

    how long how far how many roads and miles have you driven it? Or any other heavily loaded truck?

    I can get an almost empty truck bouncing pretty good at the right speed on the wrong concrete highway. Yet never had even a severely overloaded pickup bounce like that on smooth asphalt. Concrete panels create ridges at each panel joint where they’re saw cut, when the edges swell or curl. Sounds like what you’re experiencing, but until you provide more insight, can’t tell. 

  • mkirsch's avatar
    mkirsch
    Jan 10, 2024

    Concrete panels as in the road surface. Many highways are poured concrete, which have an expansion joint, or a cut line, at regular intervals to control cracking and expansion.

    These regularly-spaced seams in the concrete can set up a harmonic bouncing in your vehicle at certain speeds and/or weights. Asphalt over concrete will do the same thing because the seams are still there under the asphalt.

    Now that you know what to look for you can seek out a smooth paved road that isn't asphalt over concrete, where you can go 55 or faster, to see if it's the truck or the road.

    You don't have to be overweight or dangerously light on the front of the truck to have this problem. You just have to be balanced wrong. Hence why I still think it's a weight transfer issue. In a nutshell: The weight of the 1000lb+ camper sitting at 2-3' behind the axle has lifted just enough weight off the front of the truck to make it sensitive to road seams...

    One other thing that I don't think we've touched on: Is the bouncing uncontrollable or is the truck uncontrollable? 

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  • tbchristian3 wrote:

    Hello everyone, 

    I have gone through most of the posts for cab over bouncing and I can't seem to find a solution that fits my current set up. 

    I have a 2015 GMC Sierra 1500 5.3 L V8 4X4 Crew Cab.

    The slide in camper is a sun lite pop up but I am not sure of the model number or exact weight. Unfortunately the guy I bought it from didn't have any info on it. He said he though it weighed roughly 1000 lbs. 

    What I do know is the camper only sticks out a few inches past the tail gate so it's roughly 6ft long inside the bed. My bed is the 5.5 ft (the shortest bed they have in a 1500). I have the Happijac camper tie downs installed in between the cab and bed and tie downs mounted to the back bumper. I used a regular set of turnbuckles off of amazon. They are Brophy Machine Works brand and have a tensile strength of 2100 lbs.

    The issue I am having is that when I get up to 55 mph or higher the front end of my truck starts to bounces uncontrollably. I have tried adjusting tire pressure and tightening the turnbuckles but neither of those things helped at all.  Any other pointers? is the camper to heavy for my truck? Is it a WD problem?

    Here's a pic:


    At the very least, you need to transfer more weight forward in the pickup. You may need to keep water tank and holding tanks empty when driving. Some heavy gear may need to travel in the rea seat of the truck. Other gear as far forward in the camper as possible.

    • tbchristian3's avatar
      tbchristian3
      Explorer III

      Unfortunately the camper was completely empty and I had no gear, water or anything else in the camper or truck.😬

  • Hi tbchristian3, welcome to the forum. I don't really know much about truck campers. But just looking at the picture it looks to me like it's ready to pop a wheelie with the slightest nudge under the front bumper.

    It also looks like the camper is not snugged all the way forward to the front of the bed. Is it possible to move it forward more and make sure to transfer more weight to the front axle? Or does the bed have a curve in it and that's as far forward as it goes?

    Aside from that I would do as joerg68 suggests and get the truck weights both front and back axle with the trailer installed and then again with the trailer removed. Also look inside your drivers door at the yellow and white sticker and get the max payload capacity for that particular truck.

    • tbchristian3's avatar
      tbchristian3
      Explorer III

      It seemed pretty level in person, maybe a bad picture. I also wondered if wind getting caught between the cab and the camper could be pulling it maybe? It's actually up against the bed. The gap you see is from the bed, see pic (not my actual truck).

       

      • Grit_dog's avatar
        Grit_dog
        Navigator II

        Not likely the issue at all. 
        I feel like I asked a couple few questions you haven’t answered. As have others. 
        what’s under it for suspension?

        what you got for tires and pressure?

        what kind of road, asphalt or concrete?

        how long how far how many roads and miles have you driven it? Or any other heavily loaded truck?

        I can get an almost empty truck bouncing pretty good at the right speed on the wrong concrete highway. Yet never had even a severely overloaded pickup bounce like that on smooth asphalt. Concrete panels create ridges at each panel joint where they’re saw cut, when the edges swell or curl. Sounds like what you’re experiencing, but until you provide more insight, can’t tell. 

  • It is possible that the camper exceeds the payload of your truck, and that the camper CoG is far enough back that it even transfers weight from the front axle to the rear. That would explain your handling issues. 

    Get the truck axles weighed with and without the camper in the bed. Then compare the actual weights with the FAWR/RAWR as stated on the door sticker of your truck, as well as the weights of the axles without camper and with camper.

    If nothing else, you will know the actual weights of the truck and camper.

     

     

    • tbchristian3's avatar
      tbchristian3
      Explorer III

      Any idea on where I can weigh it? I have no clue lol. It seemed to handle fine until at 55 mph but I was also to afraid to go any faster than that with the bounce and there being no bumps to cause it. Could it also be wind pull on the camper in between the top of the cab?

      Payload sticker says 1595 total.

      • RickW's avatar
        RickW
        Explorer III

        First, go to a truck stop with a weight scale.  Weigh both axles of the empty truck (full gas tank).  Then mount the camper and weigh again.  I expect the weight on the front axle to decrease with the camper having the center of gravity behind the rear axle.  This will make your truck drive like a see saw rotating on the rear axle.

        Second, verify your tire type and pressure.  1500 trucks are delivered with passenger tires that are too soft for heavy loads.  You need LT tires, preferably load range E that can be pumped up to a higher pressure when carrying the TC.

        Third, look into stiffer shocks to dampen the springs.  Some of us use adjustable Rancho 9000s so the empty truck doesn't drive like, well, a truck.  If the truck is squatting when loaded, look into timbrens or other spring stiffeners.

        If still too bouncy, brakes poorly or rolls on turns, get a larger truck, or lighter camper, or start over..

        Hope this helps,