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Lol, only, and longest, interesting thread since they ruined this place. 2 thumbs up to y'all hanging on here.
Howdy Grit Dog..!
Only time we've ever seen anything North of 10mpg is empty, heading down hill. Most of our travels are at 50, maybe 60..small 2 lane roads. Almost always 25, 26k with the camper and trailer...and the average mpg is a staggering 7...maybe 8 on good weeks.
I'm starting to think some folks don't know how to calculate actual milage, or my last five 550's just all had chitty motors :) Makes no sense.
On the other subject... I'm not sold on the liquid springs from what I have read in following them. I wouldn't trade our Link suspension for anything.. but they aren't producing them any longer for small trucks, and that sucks. Air does work, we all know that.
Having Liquid spring suspension on the ram really made it much nicer to travel in, both empty and full. When empty on stock suspension a hill with washboard was sketchy, with LS it was easy driving. Its super expensive, but we planned to keep that truck for the long haul. Unfortunately not our decision to swap trucks. So We are going to do it again on the F450. Our 2019 F450 rode like a tank, and the new one is just the same.
Part of me wanted to go for gas and better possible mileage, but in the end, we wanted an up trim truck and stability. F450 is the most stable pickup truck out there for a larger camper IMO. Diesel it is again.
- Grit_dogNov 22, 2025Navigator III
What would make you think a gas engine would get better mileage than a diesel?
Good you got a diesel for several reasons but another maybe not considered is, you don’t seem like someone who keeps a vehicle “forever”. You will lose way more on a gas dually on resale or trade, whether 3 years or 23 years from now.
You’d have to find the right buyer and when you do they would also likely realize what it’s worth.- SoonDockinNov 22, 2025Nomad
I had planned to keep the Ram but we were t-boned. Its totaled and our camper. Thus the reason for the change. Considered gas briefly but Diesel just makes more sense. This is going to be our long term truck. I likely never would have sold the 2019 F450 but 2022 made a 3 year old truck with 30k miles worth more than I paid for it. So sold it and looked for F550's. Ford had 0 inventory anywhere. Ram had many to choose from.
- StirCrazyNov 21, 2025Moderator
Part of me wanted to go for gas and better possible mileage,
gas and better milage don't fit in the same sentance. the diesel will hands down get way better milage.
I was at the dealer yesterday getting my Bronco serviced, and there were two brand new 2025 f450's sitting on the lot.. damn I was tempted to trade in my F350.