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- JRscoobyExplorer II
valhalla360 wrote:
JRscooby wrote:
In the '70s I had a few 427 GMCs (and a couple of Super Duty Fords, when SD implied 850 in VIN) I would pull out of quarry grossing 110,000 lbs. Step grade, or soft ground, put both boxes in 1. Might have to drive a stake in the ground to tell it was moving, but if your patient it will get there. But, once started downhill, would take a running automobile to pass.
When did they stop including a granny gear in trucks? As you say, you won't win any races but pretty much nothing short of the axle shearing off was going to stop it from turning the wheels.
Some time in the late '70s the buyers of light trucks learned the auto trans, with the amplification of the torque converter would match the load starting ability of the "granny low" 4 speed. And without needing to worry about the driver's skill level on clutch engagement and the first shift, they started giving the auto higher GCVWR.
The GMC I posted about was not a pickup, but twin screw. Had a 5 speed main, and a 4 sp auxiliary transmission. - spectaExplorer
NRALIFR wrote:
valhalla360 wrote:
NRALIFR wrote:
Yeah, you’re right. I’m surprised VW didn’t respond with a commercial of their own doing it with a beetle. It coulda done it.
:):)
Drop in a transmission with a low enough gear ratio and beef up the axles to handle the torque and I'll put my money on the bug. :C
You lost some critical context there when you failed to include the Hershey Kiss emoji.
Fixed it for ya :W
:):)
Where's the like button when you need one?? :B - NRALIFRExplorer
valhalla360 wrote:
NRALIFR wrote:
Yeah, you’re right. I’m surprised VW didn’t respond with a commercial of their own doing it with a beetle. It coulda done it.
:):)
Drop in a transmission with a low enough gear ratio and beef up the axles to handle the torque and I'll put my money on the bug. :C
You lost some critical context there when you failed to include the Hershey Kiss emoji.
Fixed it for ya :W
:):) - valhalla360Navigator
NRALIFR wrote:
Yeah, you’re right. I’m surprised VW didn’t respond with a commercial of their own doing it with a beetle. It coulda done it.
:):)
Drop in a transmission with a low enough gear ratio and beef up the axles to handle the torque and I'll put my money on the bug. :C - valhalla360Navigator
JRscooby wrote:
valhalla360 wrote:
You don't need a ton of torque at the crank shaft. Put it in 1st gear 4x4 low range and you can twist the axles off with a relatively weak motor.
And no even with rubber tires, it doesn't take that much to get it rolling.
In the '70s I had a few 427 GMCs (and a couple of Super Duty Fords, when SD implied 850 in VIN) I would pull out of quarry grossing 110,000 lbs. Step grade, or soft ground, put both boxes in 1. Might have to drive a stake in the ground to tell it was moving, but if your patient it will get there. But, once started downhill, would take a running automobile to pass.
When did they stop including a granny gear in trucks? As you say, you won't win any races but pretty much nothing short of the axle shearing off was going to stop it from turning the wheels. - JRscoobyExplorer II
valhalla360 wrote:
You don't need a ton of torque at the crank shaft. Put it in 1st gear 4x4 low range and you can twist the axles off with a relatively weak motor.
And no even with rubber tires, it doesn't take that much to get it rolling.
In the '70s I had a few 427 GMCs (and a couple of Super Duty Fords, when SD implied 850 in VIN) I would pull out of quarry grossing 110,000 lbs. Step grade, or soft ground, put both boxes in 1. Might have to drive a stake in the ground to tell it was moving, but if your patient it will get there. But, once started downhill, would take a running automobile to pass. - NRALIFRExplorer
valhalla360 wrote:
NRALIFR wrote:
Not to be disagreeable, but I don’t think so. The torque required to get 374,000 pounds sitting on rubber tires rolling even on level ground has got to be huge. Did you see the truck as it started to pull? Even a diesel locomotive has to grunt hard to get a long string of cars moving, and those are sitting on steel wheels and rails that are level.
Don’t get me wrong, that truck wouldn’t be able to pull a load like that up any kind of grade for very long. I was just impressed that it was able to get it started without the road being littered with tranny parts. Who knows, maybe it did and they just cut that part out. :W
:):)
You don't need a ton of torque at the crank shaft. Put it in 1st gear 4x4 low range and you can twist the axles off with a relatively weak motor.
And no even with rubber tires, it doesn't take that much to get it rolling.
Yeah, you’re right. I’m surprised VW didn’t respond with a commercial of their own doing it with a beetle. It coulda done it.
:):) - ppineExplorer IIOne ton diesel with DRW is the right answer.
- spectaExplorerI wont diss on the pickup in the OPs video.
Still impressive no matter how you look at it.
The beefed up Dodge was impressive too. - spectaExplorer
Grit dog wrote:
Need the “like” button for spectras last post! That’s some serious wheelin for a big truck on stock suspension!
Idk about new trucks not being that tough. I think you’ve already proved that wrong. Your white truck is still basically like new with how many miles.
Bottom line, “most” trucks are durable. The biggest variable is how they’re taken care of...
Thanks. :B
I took good care of both of them and they both served me well.
I actually marvel at my 2011.
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