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richarfg
Explorer
Apr 07, 2015

Carrying Weapons North of the Border

I've been doing some reading in regards to carrying weapons north of the border. I had read previously that you can forget about handguns and assault weapons. I read today that weapons fall into three categories: allowed, restricted, and prohibited. Assault weapons and handguns fall into the prohibited category, but rifles with less than an 18.5 inch barrel fall into the category of restricted; which means that it is required to have an "Authorization to Transport" from each province that the rifle is carried. My factory manufactured Henry .45-70 has an 18.43 inch barrel! I have a small problem of understanding why these restrictions are on a factory manufactured weapon. My intent is for protection and possibility of participating in an Alaskan hunt.
  • Old-Biscuit's avatar
    Old-Biscuit
    Explorer III
    Apr 07, 2015
    Protection is NEVER accepted for taking a weapon into Canada.

    Lever action rifles typically have shorter barrels for ease of use in brush, carrying on horseback etc.
    But it still is a 'restricted' weapon and as far as Canada Laws are concerned you will need all paperwork in order to transport into/thru Canada
  • SDcampowneroper's avatar
    SDcampowneroper
    Explorer
    Apr 07, 2015
    If you 'anticipate' a hunt in Alaska or Canada is not justification to carry weapons through Canada.
    If you have a valid license to do so in either country and your weapon is an approved type for that hunt, as usually described by ft/# energy at muzzle, then permission to transport may be permitted if the firearm has not been modified from the original manufacturers specifications.
    Educate me. A 45-70 with a 18.43" barrel? Not quite original, for a 45/70 is it?
  • garyhaupt's avatar
    garyhaupt
    Explorer
    Apr 07, 2015
    Looking at the Henry 45-70 offerings. I see some pretty cool classic looks..and then I see the Henry Tactical Defense Platform. Which kind are you thinking of?

    If this...I don't see it coming in.





    Gary Haupt
  • richarfg's avatar
    richarfg
    Explorer
    Apr 07, 2015
    SDcampowneroperator wrote:
    If you 'anticipate' a hunt in Alaska or Canada is not justification to carry weapons through Canada.
    If you have a valid license to do so in either country and your weapon is an approved type for that hunt, as usually described by ft/# energy at muzzle, then permission to transport may be permitted if the firearm has not been modified from the original manufacturers specifications.
    Educate me. A 45-70 with a 18.43" barrel? Not quite original, is it?

    Yes. It's manufactured at that length by Henry.
  • richarfg's avatar
    richarfg
    Explorer
    Apr 07, 2015
    garyhaupt wrote:
    Looking at the Henry 45-70 offerings. I see some pretty cool classic looks..and then I see the Henry Tactical Defense Platform. Which kind are you thinking of?

    If this...I don't see it coming in.





    Gary Haupt


    This one is modified...Henry doesn't sell them like this.
  • Old-Biscuit's avatar
    Old-Biscuit
    Explorer III
    Apr 07, 2015
    richarfg wrote:
    SDcampowneroperator wrote:
    If you 'anticipate' a hunt in Alaska or Canada is not justification to carry weapons through Canada.
    If you have a valid license to do so in either country and your weapon is an approved type for that hunt, as usually described by ft/# energy at muzzle, then permission to transport may be permitted if the firearm has not been modified from the original manufacturers specifications.
    Educate me. A 45-70 with a 18.43" barrel? Not quite original, is it?

    Yes. It's manufactured at that length by Henry.


    Henry 45-70 Lever Action
  • richarfg's avatar
    richarfg
    Explorer
    Apr 07, 2015
    Old-Biscuit wrote:
    richarfg wrote:
    SDcampowneroperator wrote:
    If you 'anticipate' a hunt in Alaska or Canada is not justification to carry weapons through Canada.
    If you have a valid license to do so in either country and your weapon is an approved type for that hunt, as usually described by ft/# energy at muzzle, then permission to transport may be permitted if the firearm has not been modified from the original manufacturers specifications.
    Educate me. A 45-70 with a 18.43" barrel? Not quite original, is it?

    Yes. It's manufactured at that length by Henry.


    Henry 45-70 Lever Action


    THAT'S IT, Old=Bisquit.
  • SDcampowneroper's avatar
    SDcampowneroper
    Explorer
    Apr 07, 2015
    Old-Biscuit wrote:
    richarfg wrote:
    SDcampowneroperator wrote:
    If you 'anticipate' a hunt in Alaska or Canada is not justification to carry weapons through Canada.
    If you have a valid license to do so in either country and your weapon is an approved type for that hunt, as usually described by ft/# energy at muzzle, then permission to transport may be permitted if the firearm has not been modified from the original manufacturers specifications.
    Educate me. A 45-70 with a 18.43" barrel? Not quite original, is it?

    Yes. It's manufactured at that length by Henry.


    Henry 45-70 Lever Action

    Original 45-70 govt. 1866-1873 issue rifles were 32" -22 5/8 barrel length. no less. Canada is within their rights to specify that firearms meet ORIGINAL manufacturers specifications.
    While reproductions may meet muzzle energy requirements, they are still modern, not the concept envisioned of hunting with your great granddaddys iron.
    thats why
  • kalynzoo's avatar
    kalynzoo
    Explorer
    Apr 07, 2015
    Their country, their laws. Check with Canadian authorities regarding your firearms, and do follow their rules. JMHO
  • richarfg's avatar
    richarfg
    Explorer
    Apr 07, 2015
    SDcampowneroperator wrote:
    Old-Biscuit wrote:
    richarfg wrote:
    SDcampowneroperator wrote:
    If you 'anticipate' a hunt in Alaska or Canada is not justification to carry weapons through Canada.
    If you have a valid license to do so in either country and your weapon is an approved type for that hunt, as usually described by ft/# energy at muzzle, then permission to transport may be permitted if the firearm has not been modified from the original manufacturers specifications.
    Educate me. A 45-70 with a 18.43" barrel? Not quite original, is it?

    Yes. It's manufactured at that length by Henry.


    Henry 45-70 Lever Action

    Original 45-70 govt. 1866-1873 issue rifles were 32" -22 5/8 barrel length. no less. Canada is within their rights to specify that firearms meet ORIGINAL manufacturers specifications.
    While reproductions may meet muzzle energy requirements, they are still modern, not the concept envisioned of hunting with your great granddaddys iron.
    thats why


    Point well taken, SD...Thanks for clarifying "original manufacturing" and reproductions. I can say it was originally manufactured by Henry at the specs they chose, but it doesn't necessarily meet the "originals". Thanks for the eye opener.

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