I understand from a friend in Morelia that the new cuota bypassing Morelia enroute to Patzcuaro and points beyond is now open. My question;Coming from either Guanajuato or Queretaro going to Zihuatanejo:After crossing Lago Cuitzeo via the cuota, which way to we turn on the 15D? I presume north, What is the number of the new cuota and what signs do we watch for to exit the 15D?I guess it's time for a new Guia Roji!

You go North.It was a very visible exit on the right, we are remembering that is only a few kilometers.You won't miss it.

Talleyho69 wrote:You go North.It was a very visible exit on the right, we are remembering that is only a few kilometers.You won't miss it.Thanks, Would have been my guess, see you soon.

Guia Roji will not have new maps until SCT puts out their new maps - which could be years - unless Guia Roji switches to a new source for their maps. With all the road construction in Mexico in recent years both SCT and Guia Roji are way out of date. If you do not have or use GPS there are other options. HERE maps I think is now something like GO HERE and they have free downloads for both Windows and Apple. You can download almost any part of the world. But I looked and they do not yet have the new road. Then I looked on Open Street Maps and they have it. Below is how to get to Open Street Maps and how to get to the new road. You can mouse all over the world with this website but you have to find other ways to download it to your computer so it is available OFFLINE so you can look at the map and not use up data if you are a limited plan - as most of us who travel are. So below I post a couple of Snipping Tool maps directly from Open Street Maps - one shows the overview whole route of the new road which apparently will be 37D. Then I zoomed into the intersection to show how the different ramps go. If you look at the web address I will post below you will see it include Lat Lon numbers - it will do this for any location you go to - so the Lat Lon will be part of the web address. Cool. Just for fun here is another web address for Open Street Maps which shows that new road that will loop around Guadalajara - they only show the part that is now supposed to be open . . . https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=10/20.6289/-103.2962 . . . Note the different Lat Lon numbers from the one below. https://www.openstreetmap.org https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/19.88135/-101.20250 I made this clickable to larger size but they do not appear to get larger when I click.

Another one using Open Street Maps is Navigator from Map Factor . . .http://navigatorfree.mapfactor.com/en/ . . . which is free and works like a GPS - anywhere in the world. I downloaded all of North America to my Android into my microSD so not on the device memory. Problem is using it can use a lot of battery and it actually heats up after awhile when used as a GPS - but good for figuring out where you are when walking around town or whatever. It even has hiking trails and we have used it for fun in National Parks. I think there may be other map downloads using Open Street Maps OFFLINE but I am not sure. I just looked for the HERE maps online and it is now WE GO HERE or wego.here.com and they do show the new road - probably from Open Street Maps too - but I am not sure if you can use the app from this website to get the OFFLINE maps I got from Microsoft. With the MS Windows app you can download the app to your laptop or whatever and then download other specific maps to your hard drive to use OFFLINE. . . https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/store/p/windows-maps/9wzdncrdtbvb . . . Maybe I just need to see if there are updates with the new roads in Mexico on them?Here is the web address for the HERE website where you can see the new Patzcuaro road on their map - but different from the Open Street Maps version they do not show the number assigned to the road. https://wego.here.com/?map=19.86655,-101.17266,13,normalBelow is a list of changes HERE maps says they have made to Mexico maps recently........During 18 months approximately248,576 miles of road158,963 street names8,321 turn restrictions981 roundabouts10,042 one way streets952 sections of interstates7,401 road directional signs5,231 speed limits

Wow! Thanks. If only I was even a little bit computer literate I'd be in great shape!

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Talleyho69
Moderator
Dec 27, 2016
Right where you got off to go into Patzcuaro. The road from Lazaro now is toll and beautiful all the way to 15D and joins it north of Morelia.

I think that is what you are asking....
jtomich4
Explorer
Dec 27, 2016
From Patzcuaro, where is the on ramp back to 15d?
Talleyho69
Moderator
Nov 19, 2016
Villa Patcuaro is still quite lovely, and can hold any size rig. We spent two nights there this week.
Canadian_Rainbi
Explorer
Nov 19, 2016
Monday we left Queretaro at 8:30 AM (we had fueled when we arrived)through town onto the Celaya quota and arrive in Zihuatajo at about 4:30, one short lunch break for us and P break for the dogs, in El Manglar a couple of minutes before 5:00 PM. We Really DON'T like that goat track into La Mesa and will not subject the rig to it if at all possible. Way too much twisting of the coach frame. The new quota makes that much more realistic.
Tequila
Explorer
Nov 19, 2016
The road into Rancho La mesa is quite short, so it is not a big deal
Talleyho69
Moderator
Nov 19, 2016
37D takes off 12k north of the turn to Morelia. It is 60k long, and has a couple of LONG grades. Two toll booths, a class A with no tow was 169 total. It's a wonderful thing!!!!!
briansue
Explorer
Nov 14, 2016
Mostly we love the view - among the best - especially in the morning when we could watch the fog rise to expose the lake - with Morelos statue atop Janitzio rising above the white background - amazing view.
Belgique
Explorer
Nov 14, 2016
Yea, it was pretty bad in April so we only used it when we checked in and departed for good. Daily in the car we used the road on the other side of the building. Wish we were there. Our favorite place. Restaurant is excellent.
Talleyho69
Moderator
Nov 14, 2016
Yes, I meant Rancho La Mesa.
briansue
Explorer
Nov 13, 2016
They also commented that the road into Rancho Mirage is absolutely horrible this year.

If you mean Rancho La Mesa it is always horrible. Last year the guy was working on a machine and I thought he was going to fix the road but then we heard he didn't. There is now a whole neighborhood back there using the road everyday so they seem to wear it out more.

Great news about the new road.

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