No More PERMANENT Vehicle Importations (Nacionalizacion))

[MEXICOWANDERER]

Mexico, ceased operations allowing permanent vehicle importation. No more extraneous cars permitted to be nationalized at the border.


last July ADUANA imposed a one-hundred percent tax on extraneous motor vehicles brought in for duty as FRONTERA plated cars through the ANAPROMEX Frontera program. Similarly, no ANAPROEX Frontera cars can be nationalized.

This has no effect whatsoever on temporary import 180-day and 10-year tourist vehicle programs. Keep tour TIP papers and your FMM permit with you when traveling on federal roadways. The SSP is auditing car permits, and FMM paperwork for drivers and passengers at roadside retenes.

In some towns with large gringo enclaves Mexican immigration is stopping cars on the street and requesting FMM documents. IMN migras are also going from house-to-house in such gringo areas, knocking on doors and requesting to see valid paperwork.

[mexicoruss]

Nav one of these days we should meet

[navegator]

It is interesting Cloud Dancer's last comment "nobody has the power to change Mexico into something WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE"

The latinos are changing the American way, try to obtain a drivers manual written in English any where in Mexico, none to be had, how many documents from the Mexican government are in English, none to be had.

Just think how many documents are written in Spanish from the Federal, States, Counties and local Cities in the United States of America, they are changing our culture, we celebrate the 5 de Mayo even more than what the Mexicans do.

We tolerate other cultures and then turn on them when they do not assimilate into the American way like our forefathers did, speak only English, play base ball, eat hot dogs and apple pie, etc.

When in Rome do as the Romans, drive like there is no tomorrow.

navegator

[Cloud_Dancer]

Who is responsible for screwing up the Mexico I once knew? I certainly do not believe it was anybody who participates in RV forums. So who was it?
Actually, it doesn't matter,....since nobody has the power to change Mexico into something we would like to see.

[navegator]

I have noticed that there are a lot of snowbird folks that travel to Mexico and continue to have the same miss conceptions as those that do not travel to Mexico, they either do not learn about the people and culture or they want to change it to fit their concept of what it should be, according to the small world that they live in.

It is truly a shame that they do not learn and adapt to living in a different society with different customs, they want to change the culture to what they think it should be, in so doing they become very irritating and obnoxious.

Have I been in Mexico?

Yes when I was a child with my parents, later on alone and now with my wife, I was in Cancun when it was a sand bar with palm trees, the lagoon and nothing else not a soul, we arrived in a sail boat, I was in Puerto Angel when you could only get there by boat or airplane.

My dad was stationed in Mexico City when the first Carrera Panamericana took place, he took us to see the start on Reforma, a lot of Italian drivers and Fords, at that time I could tell you all the different cars by year and make, today I can hardly find my car in the parking lot!

I will ask those that do not like Mexico to please leave your opinions, miss information and biased bigotry at home, remember that trowing stones while living in a glass house is not to good.

Señores hay que vivir la poca vida loca que nos queda!

navegator

[tepetapan]

4X4Dodger wrote:

qtla9111 wrote:
It's usually the same old crowd many of which rarely travel into Mexico anymore. I used to post about boondocking but it doesn't appear people here are into boondocking in Mexico.

Most of the comments are about how bad everything is and not about how good everything is.

Years ago the forum was attracting a few Mexican rvers who were full of information. They got scared off by all the negative stuff people posted who never wanted anything to do with the country.

I think it's a great place but it seems those that live in the U.S. and Canada are the experts. Me, I'm no expert, but I have rved here, mostly boondocking, for a long time. It seems that no matter what positive thing you post, it gets beaten down.

This is so unfortunate and I think you have put your finger on the problem. Too many of the posts seem to be about running it down and the other half are by people who want to show off their arcane knowledge of the Mexican legal system...

C'mon we know you're down there lets hear from some of the rest of you who just enjoy camping in Mexico and can share some good stuff with those of us wanting to get there soon...

I agree, when I started posting here, the forum was informative and helpful. Not so much now. There was a study by a major University that said many forums are hijacked by people who have little knowledge of the subject matter but manage to take over a forum. You have seen it, I have seen it and many other have seen this happen here. When it is "pay per click" the moderators could care less.
These people that you refer to always claim , " I Love Mexico!" but are likely to cause hundreds of people from ever making the first (and most important) trip into Mexico. In Fact, I believe these people are as responsible for the RVer's failure to visit in Mexico as much as any one cartel.
It does not matter if they are senile, insane or just love to see their words on the internet, they will continue hijacking this forum until the end of time. It is best to move on to other forums that have some honest input and are sincere in helping the RVers.

[4X4Dodger]

qtla9111 wrote:
It's usually the same old crowd many of which rarely travel into Mexico anymore. I used to post about boondocking but it doesn't appear people here are into boondocking in Mexico.

Most of the comments are about how bad everything is and not about how good everything is.

Years ago the forum was attracting a few Mexican rvers who were full of information. They got scared off by all the negative stuff people posted who never wanted anything to do with the country.

I think it's a great place but it seems those that live in the U.S. and Canada are the experts. Me, I'm no expert, but I have rved here, mostly boondocking, for a long time. It seems that no matter what positive thing you post, it gets beaten down.

This is so unfortunate and I think you have put your finger on the problem. Too many of the posts seem to be about running it down and the other half are by people who want to show off their arcane knowledge of the Mexican legal system...

C'mon we know you're down there lets hear from some of the rest of you who just enjoy camping in Mexico and can share some good stuff with those of us wanting to get there soon...

[qtla9111]

It's usually the same old crowd many of which rarely travel into Mexico anymore. I used to post about boondocking but it doesn't appear people here are into boondocking in Mexico.

Most of the comments are about how bad everything is and not about how good everything is.

Years ago the forum was attracting a few Mexican rvers who were full of information. They got scared off by all the negative stuff people posted who never wanted anything to do with the country.

I think it's a great place but it seems those that live in the U.S. and Canada are the experts. Me, I'm no expert, but I have rved here, mostly boondocking, for a long time. It seems that no matter what positive thing you post, it gets beaten down.

[4X4Dodger]

Does anyone else get tired of the constant one-ups-manship and bickering that goes on on this Mexico/SA forum between the two Mexico "Experts"?

I come here for information about camping in Mexico, CA and possibly SA. Not to hear arcane detailed arguments over non-issues.

It's no wonder that this particular topic is not so well attended as it could be.

Having been an Expat a good share of my life I can spot "Expat-know it all-itis from a long way off. C'mon guys. Stop this and maybe some others will actually post with real information that is truly relevant and of interest to a wider audience.

[moisheh]

There is a requirement from the USA that any vehicle exported to Canada or Mexico has to be present at the USA border. The border officials need a copy of the title at least 72 hours before you appear with the real title. They check to make sure the vehicle is not salvage or stolen. Then the title is canceled. It is my understanding that Mexico is now requiring that canceled title.

Moisheh

[JRG]

qtla9111 wrote:

JRG wrote:
Much of the information above is incorrect.

I was looking for your info to send you a message when this thread started. I knew that if anyone had the correct info it would be you guys.

Thanks for clearing things up.

For updates on nationalizing, visas etc here is one source:

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Sonia/252211011634302

[qtla9111]

JRG wrote:
Much of the information above is incorrect.

I was looking for your info to send you a message when this thread started. I knew that if anyone had the correct info it would be you guys.

Thanks for clearing things up.

[JRG]

Much of the information above is incorrect. Cars are and recently were nationalized at Nuevo Laredo. These are 2006 and 2007 which are registered in the US (not Canadian registered vehicles). The numbers are small and costs up somewhat as in $1500 to $3000. If in doubt call as below.

Enrique Bautista email: superimportaciones@yahoo.com.

Also, enrique_bautista@yahoo.com.

The website is: www.superimportaciones.com.

Enrique's phone is 956-722-6476. Cell - 956-645-8073.

Sonia Diaz has nationalized 87 vehicles and several pending with Aduana. These are 2009 and older, NAFTA made, both American and Canadian registered and none were required to go to the border. the furthest they went was to a local OXXO for a photo proving vehicle is in Mexico. These vehicles from numerous parts of Mexico and once nationalized the owners obtained state plates and registration.

[Admin]

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[moisheh]

Hi Navegator: You left out Mexican citizens and expats who were importing cars legally into Mexico ( not border areas). This big business. Some come from as far away as New York state. Even by car carrier. Before they had to be 10 years old and be NAFTA cars. But then a moratorium was declared due to corruption
( surprise). Most people were using agents and some of them provided Aduana with forged papers. I understand it was mostly at Texas crossings. But all the rules keep changing and the fees are really high. I have never checked but have read it can be 50% of the value of the car. Used to be just the IVA and a few$$$. Being an election year the importation may begin just before or after the elections.

Moisheh