I don't know if this was reported before, but I am sick and tired of politicians who are always looking to tax us more. How about looking at ways to reduce costs? We use I-81 for many of our trips into Virginia and beyond. This is outrageous. https://wcyb.com/news/local/gas-prices-going-up-along-i-81-in-va-starting-july-1

Number of accidents, and the constant problems around Bedford are mentioned frequently here. But when the Richmond Pol's do stuff like this, somehow the new roads and services always appear around Richmond or in the DC suburbs.

We have fought for years to get more road construction in the Great Southwest (100 miles west of Roanoke) and we are finally slated to have some construction in the next 5 years.....we'll see how that goes.RGar, my suggestion is to fill up before you hit Virginia and keep going. It's a $.07 tax, we will still be cheaper than many of the adjacent states.

starting july 1st the state gas tax here in illinois will double from $.19 p/g to $.38 p/g. our ethically challenged governor says its needed for capital road and transportation projects but hasn't promised that 100% of the tax will actually go to those projects. he also wants to change the flat income tax to a graduated system he says will affect only the rich but he won't agree to freeze the rates. that's 'sposed to be used to pay down bills but no mention of paying down our debt. in fact new spending is being touted. license plate fees going up, too. amid all of this no mention of cutting spending and waste.

rk911 wrote:starting july 1st the state gas tax here in illinois will double from $.19 p/g to $.38 p/g. our ethically challenged governor says its needed for capital road and transportation projects but hasn't promised that 100% of the tax will actually go to those projects. he also wants to change the flat income tax to a graduated system he says will affect only the rich but he won't agree to freeze the rates. that's 'sposed to be used to pay down bills but no mention of paying down our debt. in fact new spending is being touted. license plate fees going up, too. amid all of this no mention of cutting spending and waste.Pritzger is a turd. Glad I don't live in Illinois.

Michigan governor(new) was trying to raise the gas tax by .45 gallon to fix roads. Various taxes for many years and previous gas tax hikes were supposed to be for the roads - never see any improvement and there is always construction in the Detroit area.

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CFerguson
Explorer II
Jun 24, 2019
RGar974417 wrote:
I agree about tolls. But why not make the tax state wide instead of just I-81? I-95 and I-64 have a lot of traffic too.

Because the politicians live in the east. The less populated western part of VA is what they think of as 'flyover country' + they hope to mainly gain revenue from out of staters on I81. What they will get is western VA small business revenue loss (and subsequent closings) in that corridor as people intentionally begin to fill up outside the state and don't stop as much off of I81.

And if you think a good portion of any additional tax isn't going into some politician's pocket, there's always some famous properties in the real estate market you can invest in.
Dutch_12078
Explorer II
Jun 24, 2019
RGar974417 wrote:
I agree about tolls. But why not make the tax state wide instead of just I-81? I-95 and I-64 have a lot of traffic too.

The idea is that the additional tax money is for improvements related to I-81 and I-81 access roads. What projects qualify though, is something of a grey area.
RGar974417
Explorer
Jun 23, 2019
RGar974417 wrote:
mgirardo wrote:
Me personally, I'd much rather pay 7 cents more per gallon than have to deal with another toll.

According to Wikipedia, I-81 through VA is only 325 miles long. Unless a vehicle gets really bad gas mileage or has a really small tank, it should make it through VA without having to fill up. That being said, I am pretty sure, even with the additional 7 cents tax, that MD and NC will still have higher gas prices than the gas stations along I-81 in VA.

-Michael
I agree about tolls. But why not make the tax state wide instead of just I-81? I-95 and I-64 have a lot of traffic too.Do you think it could be because the state and federal capitols are near those roads?
RGar974417
Explorer
Jun 23, 2019
mgirardo wrote:
Me personally, I'd much rather pay 7 cents more per gallon than have to deal with another toll.

According to Wikipedia, I-81 through VA is only 325 miles long. Unless a vehicle gets really bad gas mileage or has a really small tank, it should make it through VA without having to fill up. That being said, I am pretty sure, even with the additional 7 cents tax, that MD and NC will still have higher gas prices than the gas stations along I-81 in VA.

-Michael
I agree about tolls. But why not make the tax state wide instead of just I-81? I-95 and I-64 have a lot of traffic too.
CFerguson
Explorer II
Jun 22, 2019
I chuckle at the sheep in this thread that think the process that got us into this mess is the same process that will get us out of this mess. The process is CONTROLLED by those nailing us to the wall. Only the names change- party + candidate.
And no, I don't have an answer. But I think our grandchildren will live in a worse place than we live in now.

And sorry to the OP for diverting off the politician enrichment act that started this thread.
Bumpyroad
Explorer
Jun 21, 2019
Woodtroll wrote:
This cracks me up. Someone from PA, who travels I-81 in Virginia frequently, is "outraged" by our fuel prices? I'm pretty outraged by the condition of PA's roads when I try to drive up there, and their fuel prices are higher. Perhaps you'd rather pay a toll to travel 81, like I-77 through West Virginia?

I always was apprehensive on the PA turnpike years back when the only thing between you and vehicles coming at you 7 ft away at 70 mph was some chicken wire.
bumpy
Woodtroll
Explorer
Jun 21, 2019
This cracks me up. Someone from PA, who travels I-81 in Virginia frequently, is "outraged" by our fuel prices? I'm pretty outraged by the condition of PA's roads when I try to drive up there, and their fuel prices are higher. Perhaps you'd rather pay a toll to travel 81, like I-77 through West Virginia?
JRscooby
Explorer II
Jun 21, 2019
ACZL wrote:

Talk amongst truckers who travel thru states that want to raise fuel prices substantially is to simply not buy any fuel or products/services in those states if you don't have to. In a way, a "Boy cot" if you will.

This might be the CB talk, and there are a couple of towns locally that I will not spend a dime in because of the way they treat me as a trucker.
But with regard to fuel tax; Every quarter the company has to file a statement reporting how many miles the trucks ran in that state, and how many gallons of fuel taxes where paid on to that state Not enough fuel bought, tax paid? Send a check.
p220sigman
Explorer
Jun 21, 2019
It is a simple matter of economics. If states offer more "services", the money for these services has to come from somewhere. As has been stated, the government at any level only has money they take from the people (be it residents, businesses, tourists, etc). With the push in certain areas to increase the available "services", governments are feeling the money crunch and looking for more revenue. This is why there will be a use tax for road usage as EV use rises. If the other taxes such as the fuel taxes were removed, I'd be ok with a road use tax. Drive more-pay more. The problem is that if done in typical fashion, taxes don't disappear. The government just adds new ones.

It is like local property taxes. Local taxing authority was bragging about how hard they worked to keep the millage rate the same for the coming year and all the sheep were happy. Problem is, home values have increased, so taxes are still going up. Sure, your house is worth more, but you have to sale to realize that gain and then the house you want to buy is going to cost more. Net effect, we pay more into the government coffers...
D_E_Bishop
Explorer
Jun 21, 2019
Well for once I am going to bash California, I have led the anti-bashing of CA for several years here on RV.Net but this is ridicules. Some years ago the voters in CA elected Gerry Brown as governor. At that time our highways were a model many states aspired to, today nobody has anything good to say about them.

It was apparent to most of us that when Brown's Director of CalTrans decided to eliminate the entire budget for maintenance and construction of state highways and interstates that we would someday come to rue the action of the Giant Turkey as the director became known.

Fast forward a couple of decades and the public elected Gerry Brown two more times and to counter his actions of the seventies he instituted a long term incremental tax increase on gasoline. The first increment in 2017 was $0.12 per gallon, the second increment this year will be $0.05.6 per gallon and in two more years a third hike will occur, not to mention the COLA increases on all California fuel taxes. On July first when the second increment takes effect, California will have the Highest fuel taxes in the nation and overall tax rate may rise from forth highest to third highest in the nation.

Not withstanding the old adage of "Recent studies haven proven that recent studies are useless". A resent study shows that based on an estimate of $130 Billion needed to bring CA's roads and bridges into good repair, the tax revenue will fall short by $65 Billion.

All of this was by votes of the people, did the voters ever revolt?, yes, we forced out the Governor who doubles our registration fees by a recall election and a fiscal moderate was elected and he turned liberal in all other areas of taxation but stopped a doubling of registration fees.

Now the fees have returned, taxes have risen and the electorate seems happy.

Where am I going with this information, Arizona if I could but because I can't move, I'll be going to fewer places in my RV.

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