Glacier 2020 vanished

[agesilaus]

Glacier park has had a display up for several years saying that all the Glaciers in the park would be gone by 2020: Glacier Park

Quite mysterious I guess they can add it to this list

[agesilaus]

I almost agreed with you until you got to page 4997 of a 4500 page book... Is that a prequel to the sequel or the other way around?
-----------------------------
LOL you got me there, should be 4497 of course.

[GDS-3950BH]

schlep1967 wrote:

agesilaus wrote:

RGar974417 wrote:
When the earth was formed it was hot and dinosauers roamed the earth. Then it got cold and we had the Wolly Mammoth. Then it started to warm up again. It is a cycle. Yes the glaciers are melting faster because they are smaller. Try this experiment. Take a hug pile of snow and a small pile of snow. Both are in the sun. Which one will melt faster? The small one. Same with glaciers.

Ah not quite, if the earth's history was represented by a 4500 page book, dinosaurs don't show up until page 4270 and vanish, not counting birds on page 4430. Mammoths arrive around page 4997. Humans arrive in prototype form around the same time. Most of that book is unknown to us, we know a little about the last 500 pages and very spotty information about the pages before that.

I almost agreed with you until you got to page 4997 of a 4500 page book... Is that a prequel to the sequel or the other way around?

ROFLMAO......I would assume the Mammoths will be back in volume 2. Tasty Mammoths. Imagine the size of the Porterhouse cut.

[schlep1967]

agesilaus wrote:

RGar974417 wrote:
When the earth was formed it was hot and dinosauers roamed the earth. Then it got cold and we had the Wolly Mammoth. Then it started to warm up again. It is a cycle. Yes the glaciers are melting faster because they are smaller. Try this experiment. Take a hug pile of snow and a small pile of snow. Both are in the sun. Which one will melt faster? The small one. Same with glaciers.

Ah not quite, if the earth's history was represented by a 4500 page book, dinosaurs don't show up until page 4270 and vanish, not counting birds on page 4430. Mammoths arrive around page 4997. Humans arrive in prototype form around the same time. Most of that book is unknown to us, we know a little about the last 500 pages and very spotty information about the pages before that.

I almost agreed with you until you got to page 4997 of a 4500 page book... Is that a prequel to the sequel or the other way around?

[Crowe]

Just wondering if this has anything to do with RVing, at least in my lifetime.

Actually, it does. One has to wonder with all the doom and gloom forecasts of the demise of glaciers if people panicked and flocked to them to see them "just in case".

[agesilaus]

RGar974417 wrote:
When the earth was formed it was hot and dinosauers roamed the earth. Then it got cold and we had the Wolly Mammoth. Then it started to warm up again. It is a cycle. Yes the glaciers are melting faster because they are smaller. Try this experiment. Take a hug pile of snow and a small pile of snow. Both are in the sun. Which one will melt faster? The small one. Same with glaciers.

Ah not quite, if the earth's history was represented by a 4500 page book, dinosaurs don't show up until page 4270 and vanish, not counting birds on page 4430. Mammoths arrive around page 4997. Humans arrive in prototype form around the same time. Most of that book is unknown to us, we know a little about the last 500 pages and very spotty information about the pages before that.

[GDS-3950BH]

Grit Dog?

[RGar974417]

When the earth was formed it was hot and dinosauers roamed the earth. Then it got cold and we had the Wolly Mammoth. Then it started to warm up again. It is a cycle. Yes the glaciers are melting faster because they are smaller. Try this experiment. Take a hug pile of snow and a small pile of snow. Both are in the sun. Which one will melt faster? The small one. Same with glaciers.

[schlep1967]

ericosmith wrote:
Just wondering if this has anything to do with RVing, at least in my lifetime.

Sure it does. You should start a business installing skids on campers in place of the wheels. Up there in Michigan you need to be prepared for the next ice age. Or the continuation of this one... Be prepared. You don't want to be the caveman they are removing from the ice in 3 million years.

[ericosmith]

Just wondering if this has anything to do with RVing, at least in my lifetime.

[Crowe]

Pianotuna,

https://principia-scientific.org/climate-shock-90-percent-worlds-glaciers-growing/
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/2019/03/one-part-of-greenland-ice-growing/
https://www.iceagenow.com/List_of_Expanding_Glaciers.htm
https://phys.org/news/2017-02-zealand-unusual-glaciers.html
https://www.livescience.com/48256-asia-karakoram-glaciers-stability.html
https://weather.com/news/climate/news/2019-03-25-greenland-jakobshavn-glacier-growing-climate-change...
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/06/19/if-greenland-is-catastrophically-melting-how-do-alarmists-exp...

[agesilaus]

We are currently leaving an ice age. Common sense should tell us it will continue to warm up for millions of years. If you live on the coast, write a note to your great grand children. Tell them to tell their great grand children not to buy property below 100 feet above sea level. Because at that point, it will really only be 95 feet above sea level.
----------------------------------------------
I don't think there is any reason to assume that we are out of the ice age cycle, we are in an interglacial period and there is some reason to think that we maybe in a slow drop to a new glacial period. The 5 ice ages you refer to were broken down into many glacial/interglacial periods and lasted millions of years.

[agesilaus]

schlep1967 wrote:

NRALIFR wrote:
Dang schlep, you just took away all of my incentive to screech and wail, gnash my teeth, and wag my finger at everyone, while scaring the **** out of children to the point where they believe there is just no hope for them. Everyone wants to be a prophet or doom. It’s become a death cult.

:):)

Remember sensationalism sells.

The "experts" predicted Miami would be several feet under water by now.....
The mega cruise ships are still going in and out of the port and the docks are still sitting at the same level they were when that prediction was made.

I believe the sea level has been increasing 1.8 mm/yr or about 1/8th in/yr. So 80 years = 10 inches assuming that the ground level isn't changing too which it is in many parts of the world.

[bid_time]

Give me a call when you get China on board with your Green New Deal.

[pianotuna]

Do provide a link that says the glaciers in those areas are increasing in mass.

"It’s melting and it’s not coming back. That’s something we often hear about our shifting climate and the ice that, in a sense, holds it together. Throughout the Arctic, glaciers are shrinking, right?

Maybe not quite the way we think.

NASA's Oceans Melting Greenland (OMG) project has revealed Greenland’s Jakobshavn Glacier, the island’s biggest, is actually growing, at least at its edge. In research published Monday in Nature Geoscience, researchers report that since 2016, Jakobshavn’s ice has thickened slightly, thanks to relatively cool ocean waters at its base—which have caused the glacier to slow down its melt. This reverses the glacier’s 20-year trend of thinning and retreating. But because of what else is happening on the ice sheet, and the overall climate outlook, that’s not necessarily a good thing for global sea level.

That's because, despite the fact that this particular glacier is growing, the whole Greenland ice sheet is still losing lots and lots of ice. Jakobshavn drains only about seven percent of the entire ice sheet, so even if it were growing robustly, mass loss from the rest of the ice sheet would outweigh its slight expansion."

Crowe wrote:

Keep in mind there are still glaciers that are advancing in areas such as Greenland, New Zealand, Alaska (Hubbard Glacier), and Norway. Just sayin'.