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riven1950
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I have been thinking about a Honda EU2000i genny and while looking found a Yamaha EF2400iSCH genny. They claim it will start and run a 13,500btu A/c on an RV. Reviews are pretty good. Only saw one review where it would not run the a/c. Others said it would do it.

Just wondering if others on here have tried it or have another similar priced option in a genny. We have a small TT so don't really want to go to expense of a 3000w or pair two 2000w. I know IF it will run the a/c thats all it would likely do. Would be nice to have the option, which you don't have with the Honda 2000. Thks
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NinerBikes
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LenSatic wrote:
NinerBikes wrote:
profdant139 wrote:
Bionic, that fuel cutoff is a phenomenal idea -- the only way I can run my Honda carb dry is by burning the whole tank, a time=consuming waste of money. But a dry carb is the key, they say, to avoiding gummy crud. Why can't Honda do that? It is not as if the Honda 2000 is a budget device! Grumble.



Take a quarter, undo the screw, pull the cover off. Take a small screw driver underneath the carburetor float bowl, Twist counter clockwise until fuel comes out the tube near the foot of the generator. once it stops draining, twist the screw clockwise, closing it. Your carb is now drained. Leave the engine setting in the "off" position, choke the carb, and pull the starter handle 3 times firmly, without starting the motor up. You've now sucked all the fuel out of the fuel jets also. Ready for storage.


Thanks for the info! I've just kept Sta-Bil in the fuel cans and run Sea Foam through the Honda.

Can I borrow a quarter? ๐Ÿ˜‰

LS


I think, if you were smart enough, you could share a penny and use it to the same effect, a quarter just has a little more leverage. :B

LenSatic
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NinerBikes wrote:
profdant139 wrote:
Bionic, that fuel cutoff is a phenomenal idea -- the only way I can run my Honda carb dry is by burning the whole tank, a time=consuming waste of money. But a dry carb is the key, they say, to avoiding gummy crud. Why can't Honda do that? It is not as if the Honda 2000 is a budget device! Grumble.



Take a quarter, undo the screw, pull the cover off. Take a small screw driver underneath the carburetor float bowl, Twist counter clockwise until fuel comes out the tube near the foot of the generator. once it stops draining, twist the screw clockwise, closing it. Your carb is now drained. Leave the engine setting in the "off" position, choke the carb, and pull the starter handle 3 times firmly, without starting the motor up. You've now sucked all the fuel out of the fuel jets also. Ready for storage.


Thanks for the info! I've just kept Sta-Bil in the fuel cans and run Sea Foam through the Honda.

Can I borrow a quarter? ๐Ÿ˜‰

LS
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NinerBikes
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profdant139 wrote:
Bionic, that fuel cutoff is a phenomenal idea -- the only way I can run my Honda carb dry is by burning the whole tank, a time=consuming waste of money. But a dry carb is the key, they say, to avoiding gummy crud. Why can't Honda do that? It is not as if the Honda 2000 is a budget device! Grumble.



Take a quarter, undo the screw, pull the cover off. Take a small screw driver underneath the carburetor float bowl, Twist counter clockwise until fuel comes out the tube near the foot of the generator. once it stops draining, twist the screw clockwise, closing it. Your carb is now drained. Leave the engine setting in the "off" position, choke the carb, and pull the starter handle 3 times firmly, without starting the motor up. You've now sucked all the fuel out of the fuel jets also. Ready for storage.

mlts22
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Good info, and thanks for letting us know that the hard start cap worked. It seems to be a matter of trial and error to match generators and A/Cs sometimes.

BobnKris
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I'm happy to report the capacitor did the trick. Easy to install, and my Yam 2400 now starts/runs the AC.
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Supercharged
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I have both, one is red and one is blue, that is the differant.
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wbwood
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riven1950 wrote:
Thanks for the link 2oldman. I had found some of that, but not all. I am thinking I am seeing a Champion3100 or a stack of Champion2000 in my future.

BTW: Supergen has refurbished stacks of Ch2000 for sale. Anyone have experience with them? I realize most people, including myself would not normally consider refurbed, plus only a 90warranty. Just wondering if there is any REAL world experience with them.

Thks


You can get refurbished ones on ebay. There are the red ones there for $399 each . Or for $849, you can get 2 of them with the parallel kit. Free shipping also. I bought mine (yellow) from Home Depot over a year or so ago. I think I paid right around $500 for it. I was thinking of getting one of the refurbs to pair with it, but never got that far as we ended up with the motorhome with the built in generator.Still have the one for home emergency use.
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riven1950
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Thanks for the link 2oldman. I had found some of that, but not all. I am thinking I am seeing a Champion3100 or a stack of Champion2000 in my future.

BTW: Supergen has refurbished stacks of Ch2000 for sale. Anyone have experience with them? I realize most people, including myself would not normally consider refurbed, plus only a 90warranty. Just wondering if there is any REAL world experience with them.

Thks

JiminDenver
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The fuel pump I use while flying RC aircraft is small cheap. 12v and the fuel line will go down the fill tube. Stick the other end in a empty oil bottle and you are done.
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NinerBikes
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profdant139 wrote:
Don't get me started about changing the oil on the Honda!! I made a PVC spout that fits into the oil drain hole, and that makes the job a little easier. But why didn't Honda give us a drain valve?? How hard would that have been on a thousand dollar generator? Does the Yamaha have an oil drain valve?

I am talking myself into getting a Yamaha, if and when I have to replace my Honda.


I have a suction pump with small hose, that fits in my Makita drill gun. Or you could do topside changes with a vacuum pump like a Pella. I already own a Pela 6000 for oil changes on my VW diesels.

Pela oil extractors.

NinerBikes
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profdant139 wrote:
2oldman, yes, one can siphon the gas, but it is a messy process. If only Honda would give us a shutoff valve like the Yamaha, we could easily dry the carb and avoid gummy crud and avoid "surging" due to bad jets and avoid expensive service calls. One would think that Honda would want to enhance the image of its generators as "user friendly," to help justify the price tag.


One can pull the bolt out of the bottom of the float bowl on the honda and drain the contents out before storage. Put the bolt back in in, leave the knob in the "off" position, choke the carb, and pull the starter 2 or 3 times to suck all the fuel out of the jets in the carb, after the float bowl has been drained. Job complete.

2oldman
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riven1950 wrote:
. Would be very interested if someone actually has a Champion3100 and they can relate their history with it as far as noise etc.
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mlts22
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riven1950 wrote:
Bumpy I like your idea with the plywood, although in my case with a 18 foot TT it seems it would be too easy to move the TT off the plywood. Or am I missing something?

mlts22 do you hook up and run the genny while it is in the truck bed?

I agree a thief with bolt cutters could ruin a good security measure, but they do make some pretty tough security cables now. Luckily most crack heads and thieves of opportunity do not have bolt cutters.


Yep, I run the generator in the truck bed, taking care to use a longer power cord and have the exhaust point well away from my TT when it is parked. That way, even a light breeze will disperse any CO before it becomes a problem.

When I was in college and had an internship job for the university, I saw the local police used bait bikes (bicycles that had the tires deflated and were attached to a rack with various amounts of security) to nab bike thieves, some of the scofflaws had the blade of the bolt cutters and the handles in separate segments stored in their backpack, only assembling it to do their dirty work, so they can hit the road with their prize (be it an expensive bike with a cheap lock or anything else that could be sold at a fence for their next fix.)

After seeing what type of bike locks got broken and what lasted the test of thieves, I do not trust steel cables, no matter how thick, beefy-appearing, and Kevlar wrapped they are. The sole exception are the armored cables sold for motorcycles that have interlocking steel links. Instead, I use high test security chains as the main defense, then use a cable as a secondary lock.

I would be afraid of using a board under a tire. It will stop casual opportunistic thieves, but there is a good chance of a tweaker trashing a tire either in an attempt to "liberate" the board.

JiminDenver
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Bumpyroad wrote:
riven1950 wrote:
Bumpy I like your idea with the plywood, although in my case with a 18 foot TT it seems it would be too easy to move the TT off the plywood. Or am I missing something?


I believe that the person who came up with this had a motorhome which would be a little more difficult to push around. ๐Ÿ™‚
are those "chocks" that go between the two tires and expand lockable in some way?
bumpy


A cheap floor jack and I'd bet ya I could have it out of there in seconds. ๐Ÿ˜‰
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