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FULLTIMEWANABE
Oct 30, 2016Explorer
First and foremost: Any time you enter the USA it is at the discretion of the border crossing agent how long they agree to, same in Canada for visitors. We are always very conscious of that.
We built a house in Fla from November 2009 through to COO 10th June 2010, we had to juggle between us, as initially we were under the impression it was 182/3 calendar days in any one given year, thinking that 1st January started again, but we were told in no uncertain terms by several border agents at various times when querying this that it is 182/3 days in a 365/366 day cycle.
We were also advised by those in uniform that we should complete the "closer connection to Canada" form and keep previous copies with us each time we cross as well as proof with bank statements, utility bills, rental agreements or house ownership docs = back up if required (which it hasn't ever yet).
One thing that's become very evident with this visitors/snowbirds in the USA amount of time allowed, is there are lots of opinions out there and misinformation, seriously you should check with the official bodies direct in the USA as well Canada Revenue Agency regarding taxation liabilities, if you are present longer than 120 days a year.
We are in the process of trying to sell our Fla property now to go FT and when I head down to Sarasota next week, I am going to the IRS office on Bee Ridge Road personally to try and understand from "officialdom" about TTIN, and the implications of getting one too prematurely if the property doesn't sell in a timely manner ie; do I need to file a tax return in the USA each year I have it "just because"? It is advantageous to us to not have a 15% with holding tax on the full sale price, versus the difference between build and profit if there is any and apparently there is another form we need for that also completed. Oh man, life is never simple is it?
Seriously for your own sake, do check with proper "official sources" not a rehash done by various associations on their interpretation.
That's our 2 cents which is probably worth less than 1c in todays money.
FTW
PS: Don't neglect your provincial health care requirements either. You likely don't want to lose them!!! Again, check direct with Ontario Health not hearsay!
We built a house in Fla from November 2009 through to COO 10th June 2010, we had to juggle between us, as initially we were under the impression it was 182/3 calendar days in any one given year, thinking that 1st January started again, but we were told in no uncertain terms by several border agents at various times when querying this that it is 182/3 days in a 365/366 day cycle.
We were also advised by those in uniform that we should complete the "closer connection to Canada" form and keep previous copies with us each time we cross as well as proof with bank statements, utility bills, rental agreements or house ownership docs = back up if required (which it hasn't ever yet).
One thing that's become very evident with this visitors/snowbirds in the USA amount of time allowed, is there are lots of opinions out there and misinformation, seriously you should check with the official bodies direct in the USA as well Canada Revenue Agency regarding taxation liabilities, if you are present longer than 120 days a year.
We are in the process of trying to sell our Fla property now to go FT and when I head down to Sarasota next week, I am going to the IRS office on Bee Ridge Road personally to try and understand from "officialdom" about TTIN, and the implications of getting one too prematurely if the property doesn't sell in a timely manner ie; do I need to file a tax return in the USA each year I have it "just because"? It is advantageous to us to not have a 15% with holding tax on the full sale price, versus the difference between build and profit if there is any and apparently there is another form we need for that also completed. Oh man, life is never simple is it?
Seriously for your own sake, do check with proper "official sources" not a rehash done by various associations on their interpretation.
That's our 2 cents which is probably worth less than 1c in todays money.
FTW
PS: Don't neglect your provincial health care requirements either. You likely don't want to lose them!!! Again, check direct with Ontario Health not hearsay!
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