Planning
Jun 30, 2019Explorer
Gray Tank Insulation
We embarked upon checking our galley gray tank (35 gallon) on our fifth-wheel after reading about poorly/unsupported holding tanks dropping.
First the good: the holding tank brackets appear sufficient, fore, aft and sideways.
![](https://i.imgur.com/gTL7waa.jpg)
![](https://i.imgur.com/msMOBYY.jpg)
![](https://i.imgur.com/B5pC2Zc.jpg)
Skipping right to the ugly: The manufacturer says that this model provides "Heated Holding Tanks" and "All-Conditions/Four Seasons Insulation". There is a heating duct to the forward holding tanks (FW70, Gray 67, Black 65), but in examining the galley gray tank I could find no ducting. I used a camera to examine the recess on top of the tank and still could not see any location for a heating duct.
To make matters worse, the "All-Conditions/Four Seasons Insulation" for the galley tank consisted of something that looked like a threadbare, slightly moldy toupee bought at the secondhand outlet, and originally purchased as a gag gift from the dollar store. It might have had an insulation value of R-0.5 The dollar store toupee, all 1/2 inch of it, rested upon the coroplast that is the “floor” of the gray tank hold.
The area surrounding the tank is all steel bulkhead walls; the opposite side of those are exposed exterior. There was no insulation in the surrounding space of the tank hold.
Here is a photo showing the tank hold:
![](https://i.imgur.com/dsVlW6L.jpg)
Water had obviously sprayed/seeped under the edges of the coroplast and rust was making headway on the flange of the hold bulkheads. I wire brushed and cleaned them with brake cleaner, then refinished all of the problem areas with Rustoleum “Professional”.
For insulation I used 2 inch thick R-10 Dow blue board, and went all of the way around the hold. (The ceiling of the hold is a membrane/wrap material and is the floor of the 5ver.)
Here is a photo of the sidewall insulation.
![](https://i.imgur.com/weoynQ5.jpg)
For the bottom of the tank I used the same Dow product. The insulation for this area is now better by orders of magnitude. We do not use the RV in winter, but I am now more confident that minor overnight freezing will not be problematic.
![](https://i.imgur.com/84cpv7o.jpg)
To close up the coroplast I added stainless steel fender washers to the original screws and Loctite thread locker tape.
![](https://i.imgur.com/C4KV6cG.jpg)
I also added 3/4 inch butyl tape around the entire perimeter of the hold flange to enhance the seal from the aforementioned spray and seepage.
Here it is all buttoned up.
![](https://i.imgur.com/o36YkAH.jpg)
![](https://i.imgur.com/q97ifN2.jpg)
The original insulation is a combination of poor design, shoddy workmanship, and a strange definition of “Four Seasons Insulation”
First the good: the holding tank brackets appear sufficient, fore, aft and sideways.
![](https://i.imgur.com/gTL7waa.jpg)
![](https://i.imgur.com/msMOBYY.jpg)
![](https://i.imgur.com/B5pC2Zc.jpg)
Skipping right to the ugly: The manufacturer says that this model provides "Heated Holding Tanks" and "All-Conditions/Four Seasons Insulation". There is a heating duct to the forward holding tanks (FW70, Gray 67, Black 65), but in examining the galley gray tank I could find no ducting. I used a camera to examine the recess on top of the tank and still could not see any location for a heating duct.
To make matters worse, the "All-Conditions/Four Seasons Insulation" for the galley tank consisted of something that looked like a threadbare, slightly moldy toupee bought at the secondhand outlet, and originally purchased as a gag gift from the dollar store. It might have had an insulation value of R-0.5 The dollar store toupee, all 1/2 inch of it, rested upon the coroplast that is the “floor” of the gray tank hold.
The area surrounding the tank is all steel bulkhead walls; the opposite side of those are exposed exterior. There was no insulation in the surrounding space of the tank hold.
Here is a photo showing the tank hold:
![](https://i.imgur.com/dsVlW6L.jpg)
Water had obviously sprayed/seeped under the edges of the coroplast and rust was making headway on the flange of the hold bulkheads. I wire brushed and cleaned them with brake cleaner, then refinished all of the problem areas with Rustoleum “Professional”.
For insulation I used 2 inch thick R-10 Dow blue board, and went all of the way around the hold. (The ceiling of the hold is a membrane/wrap material and is the floor of the 5ver.)
Here is a photo of the sidewall insulation.
![](https://i.imgur.com/weoynQ5.jpg)
For the bottom of the tank I used the same Dow product. The insulation for this area is now better by orders of magnitude. We do not use the RV in winter, but I am now more confident that minor overnight freezing will not be problematic.
![](https://i.imgur.com/84cpv7o.jpg)
To close up the coroplast I added stainless steel fender washers to the original screws and Loctite thread locker tape.
![](https://i.imgur.com/C4KV6cG.jpg)
I also added 3/4 inch butyl tape around the entire perimeter of the hold flange to enhance the seal from the aforementioned spray and seepage.
Here it is all buttoned up.
![](https://i.imgur.com/o36YkAH.jpg)
![](https://i.imgur.com/q97ifN2.jpg)
The original insulation is a combination of poor design, shoddy workmanship, and a strange definition of “Four Seasons Insulation”