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Harvey51
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Jun 27, 2016

MH radio with engine off

The dashboard radio on our Ford E350 works great with the engine off and even has speakers over the dinette. Unfortunately putting the ignition switch in AUX causes the headlights to go on! I have no idea how to change that, but I figured I could convince that radio to go on without using the ignition.

The radio we have is an aftermarket Audiovox. Easy to pull out of the dash - just a gentle pry to pull off a plastic frame, then pull the radio out with two fingers. Lots of wires: eight speaker wires a ground wire (black) and two power wires (yellow and red). The wiring is clearly marked on the radio itself and in its manual. The yellow has 12 volts all the time, the red when the ignition is on or in AUX. I see in the Ford manual, there is a third power fuse live when the ignition is in cranking position.

The yellow wire has a 10 amp fuse inline and a choke in a little black box. The radio pulls 30 mA from the yellow wire all the time for its clock, plus 300 mA when the red wire is energized and the display lights up, over 1 amp when the radio is turned on. The red wire supplies 15 mA with the radio off and 65 when it is on.

I could have just connected the red to the yellow to make the radio available all the time - at the cost of drawing 315 mA all the time. I chose to use a switch to toggle the red wire between the existing AUX supply and direct to the always on yellow. I happened to find a switch that fits snugly into the CD storage shelf which we have never used.


It doesn't look professional but is functional. Very handy for us.
  • I spoke to a mechanic today about the driving headlights being on when ignition is in ACC position. He said that is very common. They might go off when the emergency brake is on. But mine stayed on.
  • I tried holding the power button in. After 5 or 10 seconds the radio beep beeps - but it keeps on talking. Shorter hold downs have no effect whatsoever. The manual makes no mention of a second function of the power button.

    I'm pretty sure the clock display stays lit up forever with power applied to both wires. This is a 2004 vehicle, likely not using LED lights, so I figure the display is drawing the 300 mA. This is perfectly acceptable when the engine is running and nice to have. But I don't want it drawing 300 mA 24/7 when parked.

    I like my new switch very much.
  • Harvey51 wrote:
    There is no "source" button. No USB port or input jack of any kind. I did find a pair of unconnected audio wires coming out the back that were labeled as audio output for an amplifier. I guess it is a cheapo vehicle radio.


    Try a long press of the power button, too. On my (no-name) replacement radio, a quick press simply puts it in mute mode, while a longer press turns it fully off. Current consumption when off is properly low (certainly not a significant fraction of an ampere).

    It's also conceivable that the power consumption will go down after several seconds or a minute or so, if perchance you measured it immediately.
  • There is no "source" button. No USB port or input jack of any kind. I did find a pair of unconnected audio wires coming out the back that were labeled as audio output for an amplifier. I guess it is a cheapo vehicle radio.

    Failing ignition switch? Any way to check it?
    I suppose replacement would be an expensive professional shop job due to the explosive charge in the steering wheel.
    It actually strikes me as a wiring problem elsewhere that connects the driving lights to auxiliary power. Maybe something that happened in the RV building shop. I happen to slightly know two other owners of the same MH and will ask if they have the same problem.
  • I'm not familiar with Audiovox radios. With many Kenwood and Alpine radios you can press and hold the "Source" button. This causes the radio into deep sleep but still maintains all memory functions and the clock. Long Press on the source is very similar to turning the ignition off on a normal passenger vehicle. It's been awhile since I tested the amperage draw during deep sleep. It might have been about .06amps (+/-?).

    Next time you have the radio on. Long press the SRC or Source button to see if this is the case. If so, you could eliminate your switch.
  • Sounds like you may have a bad ignition switch. Might want to see if that is a problem that will reveal itself later in not such a harmless way.

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