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air bags on truck

We were told that by adding air bags to our truck we could pull a 5th wheel that is heavier than the manufacturers recommendations. Does anyone know about this? We have been told by more than one RV dealership that this is so.

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Cummins12V98 wrote:
...Yup and when a death is involved it's easy to win. If Joe RVer has a 250/2500 SRW and he installs air bags and 19.5's and tows my Mobile Suites that weighs over 20K there is enough evidence that proves his TV was not up to the task to begin with. My example does exist they are out there every day.

Anyway this is a no win argument on here but I really suggest people quit putting bandaids on their TV's and get the proper TV to match their RV choice.


Please post verifiable court cases of deaths and accidents caused by overloaded, non-commercial, RV tow vehicles.

Lots of fear mongering spouted on the forums.

No verifiable facts provided by these fear mongerers.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2015-04-05T10:10:48.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2015-04-05T10:10:48.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":509},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:FifthWheel/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:FifthWheelforum-board/message:1687144/message:1687197","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"765","rawBody":"
Cummins12V98 wrote:
...Yup and when a death is involved it's easy to win. If Joe RVer has a 250/2500 SRW and he installs air bags and 19.5's and tows my Mobile Suites that weighs over 20K there is enough evidence that proves his TV was not up to the task to begin with. My example does exist they are out there every day.

Anyway this is a no win argument on here but I really suggest people quit putting bandaids on their TV's and get the proper TV to match their RV choice.


Please post verifiable court cases of deaths and accidents caused by overloaded, non-commercial, RV tow vehicles.

Lots of fear mongering spouted on the forums.

No verifiable facts provided by these fear mongerers.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1687197_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:292772":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:292772","uid":292772,"login":"Allworth","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2006-10-10T09:44:48.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-4.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:41"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:292772"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1687196":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1687196","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1687196":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:292772"},"id":"message:1687196","revisionNum":1,"uid":1687196,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:FifthWheelforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1687144"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1687144"},"subject":"Re: air bags on truck","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1687196"},"body":"Popcorn!

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Popcorn!

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Bionic Man wrote:
drfife wrote:
Cummins12V98 wrote:
...Well Sir if you are over your weight ratings and you kill one of my family members I will drain your insurance coverage then I will go after you personally. And I will win and you will have nothing.

So if you want to play roulette by towing over your limits you better have a huge umbrella policy.


There is no way you could prove it in court.


You can try that tactic regardless of the weight of the rig. You might win. You might not. I have never seen, nor heard of an actual first hand account where being over the manufactures rated weight created a larger settlement.

Welcome to America, where people can, and will, sue over just about anything.


Yup and when a death is involved it's easy to win. If Joe RVer has a 250/2500 SRW and he installs air bags and 19.5's and tows my Mobile Suites that weighs over 20K there is enough evidence that proves his TV was not up to the task to begin with. My example does exist they are out there every day.

Anyway this is a no win argument on here but I really suggest people quit putting bandaids on their TV's and get the proper TV to match their RV choice.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2015-04-05T06:56:43.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2015-04-05T06:56:43.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":508},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:FifthWheel/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:FifthWheelforum-board/message:1687144/message:1687195","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"1317","rawBody":"
Bionic Man wrote:
drfife wrote:
Cummins12V98 wrote:
...Well Sir if you are over your weight ratings and you kill one of my family members I will drain your insurance coverage then I will go after you personally. And I will win and you will have nothing.

So if you want to play roulette by towing over your limits you better have a huge umbrella policy.


There is no way you could prove it in court.


You can try that tactic regardless of the weight of the rig. You might win. You might not. I have never seen, nor heard of an actual first hand account where being over the manufactures rated weight created a larger settlement.

Welcome to America, where people can, and will, sue over just about anything.


Yup and when a death is involved it's easy to win. If Joe RVer has a 250/2500 SRW and he installs air bags and 19.5's and tows my Mobile Suites that weighs over 20K there is enough evidence that proves his TV was not up to the task to begin with. My example does exist they are out there every day.

Anyway this is a no win argument on here but I really suggest people quit putting bandaids on their TV's and get the proper TV to match their RV choice.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1687195_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:2086":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:2086","uid":2086,"login":"rhagfo","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2012-07-06T09:49:57.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-12.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:40"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:2086"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1687194":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1687194","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1687194":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:2086"},"id":"message:1687194","revisionNum":1,"uid":1687194,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:FifthWheelforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1687144"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1687144"},"subject":"Re: air bags on truck","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1687194"},"body":"
drfife wrote:
Cummins12V98 wrote:
...Well Sir if you are over your weight ratings and you kill one of my family members I will drain your insurance coverage then I will go after you personally. And I will win and you will have nothing.

So if you want to play roulette by towing over your limits you better have a huge umbrella policy.


There is no way you could prove it in court.


Fault would also have to be proven first.

What did you use to tow with your 12V???","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2015-04-05T05:40:39.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2015-04-05T05:40:39.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":508},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:FifthWheel/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:FifthWheelforum-board/message:1687144/message:1687194","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"567","rawBody":"
drfife wrote:
Cummins12V98 wrote:
...Well Sir if you are over your weight ratings and you kill one of my family members I will drain your insurance coverage then I will go after you personally. And I will win and you will have nothing.

So if you want to play roulette by towing over your limits you better have a huge umbrella policy.


There is no way you could prove it in court.


Fault would also have to be proven first.

What did you use to tow with your 12V???","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1687194_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:52110":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:52110","uid":52110,"login":"Bionic_Man","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2009-04-03T12:04:16.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-7.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:52110"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1687193":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1687193","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1687193":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:52110"},"id":"message:1687193","revisionNum":1,"uid":1687193,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:FifthWheelforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1687144"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1687144"},"subject":"Re: air bags on truck","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1687193"},"body":"
drfife wrote:
Cummins12V98 wrote:
...Well Sir if you are over your weight ratings and you kill one of my family members I will drain your insurance coverage then I will go after you personally. And I will win and you will have nothing.

So if you want to play roulette by towing over your limits you better have a huge umbrella policy.


There is no way you could prove it in court.


You can try that tactic regardless of the weight of the rig. You might win. You might not. I have never seen, nor heard of an actual first hand account where being over the manufactures rated weight created a larger settlement.

Welcome to America, where people can, and will, sue over just about anything.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2015-04-04T20:10:29.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2015-04-04T20:10:29.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":508},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:FifthWheel/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:FifthWheelforum-board/message:1687144/message:1687193","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"793","rawBody":"
drfife wrote:
Cummins12V98 wrote:
...Well Sir if you are over your weight ratings and you kill one of my family members I will drain your insurance coverage then I will go after you personally. And I will win and you will have nothing.

So if you want to play roulette by towing over your limits you better have a huge umbrella policy.


There is no way you could prove it in court.


You can try that tactic regardless of the weight of the rig. You might win. You might not. I have never seen, nor heard of an actual first hand account where being over the manufactures rated weight created a larger settlement.

Welcome to America, where people can, and will, sue over just about 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