Balancing tires with powder stuff ?

[Pineapple_Kid]

Have a rear kitchen Jayco and have never had any problems with the kitchen stuff moving about until I Installed a tire monitoring system
I guess the weight of the sensors has thrown the tires out of balance ? The problem is not bad however it is irritating to me.

No one in the Santa Cruz California has a Rim Centric tire balancer necessary for trailer tires to do the job correct.

The shop where I purchase my tires has suggested that I could have a
powder type compound put inside each of the tires that will automatically balance the tires after a mile or so of driving.

They say they use it in all the big truck tires and it works great?
they will do it for $10 per tire, and $5 if I have it put in when I buy a new set.

Has anyone used this stuff ? If so how did it work ?
Aloha Leon

[Pineapple_Kid]

I agree with RCMAN46 I also never had any tire adjusted, the Chinese tires I received my money back for was because they mounted the wrong size tires on the
trailer. It may have had something to do with my cousins wife being an attorney in the same town as the tire shop ??

Aloha Leon

[RCMAN46]

Johnny_H wrote:
If you have some kind of tire failure that may be stood behind by the manufacturer, good luck if you are running beads in them. Any kind of tire warranty is shot with them. I would suggest running centramatic balancers, A little pricey, but basically permanent and no issues with tire warranty.

I have never had a tire failure that was covered under warranty or if it was the price adjustment was not much better than a new tire would cost without the warranty adjustment.

If anything the beads have increased the tire life.

[sdetweil]

Pineapple Kid wrote:
Thanks for the input from the knowledgeable posters here.

I am sure that I never had a bounce around problem in the kitchen through the 5 sets of tires I have gone through on this trailer with the exception of the set of Chinese tires I briefly had on the trailer that were severely out of round and the dealer refunded my money for them.

The bounce started after I had the valve stems replaced with metal ones and added the TPS monitors.

I will have the tire guy add the larger beads to the tires when I get to the Mainland in 2 weeks.
Aloha from Kauai
Leon

I had similar experience.. rubber stems as bought, smooth.
metal stems and sensors.. feels like there is a bounce.

when they put on the metal stems, they only released one side of the tire, so not a tire position problem.

[Pineapple_Kid]

Thanks for the input from the knowledgeable posters here.

I am sure that I never had a bounce around problem in the kitchen through the 5 sets of tires I have gone through on this trailer with the exception of the set of Chinese tires I briefly had on the trailer that were severely out of round and the dealer refunded my money for them.

The bounce started after I had the valve stems replaced with metal ones and added the TPS monitors.

I will have the tire guy add the larger beads to the tires when I get to the Mainland in 2 weeks.
Aloha from Kauai
Leon

[jaycocamprs]

Beads, powder or even liquid like antifreeze works well as long as the tire is round. Get an egg shaped tire and they will all collect in one place, making the shaking worse.

[fcooper]

The beads may not work well on low profile tires such as auto's and minivans. DynaBead themselves do not recommend use in aspect ratio tires of 65 or less.

Fred

[golf_bears]

I doubt very much that your TPMS sensors are creating a problem. The sensors weight less than one ounce. You may have a different issue that is creating your problem. Perhaps you have an axle alignment or bent axle spindle issue. Could create a wobbling tire as you travel down the highway, particularly at higher speeds?

[Pete_k]

Used Equal in semi 24.5's for years and then in my Rickson 19.5's They were blanced with it. And lasted as long as the tires did. Never used anything but air from any air hose in all of those. Will be adding the Centramatics to my Kodiak C5500 and 40ft 5th wheel by next spring. There high but will last longer then I will. Found the 4 for the Kodiak for $360. Shipped to me. Have not checked to see what the ones for our 8 lug camper wheels will take. But may be using the Rickson 19.5's on the camper. As there the same height and I have them laying here. So rather then spend more on 16's for the wheels on the camper. Buy 4 new 19.5's and no issues of ever having a blowout. And put the wheels off the camper on my 33ft triple axle tilt gooseneck.
Pete

[ol_Bombero-JC]

gbopp wrote:
It did a good job on our 96 Southwind. But, I only used it in the
steering tires.

His *trailer* doesn't have any "steering tires"..:R

(For a TV or MH, Centramatics or Balance Masters....but that's discussion info for different forums, LOL)

OP - (IMO) pass on the "powder" - beads, maybe.

And - even though you didn't have any problems previously, think I would try a test drive *without* the TPMS sensors (again) to see if they really are the culprit..;)

~

[golf_bears]

The important things have already been mentioned in separate responses above. I'll summarize here:
Do not use sand/powder it will clog up from the moisture injected into the tire when compressed air is used to top of the tires. It will also clog up the valve stem to which your TPMS sensors are attached and render them useless.

When using the beads (Dynabeads or other brands) they provide a special valve to replace the valve in the valve stems if you use the smaller beads. If you use the larger beads the standard valve does not need to be replaced. As a result your TPMS sensors will work just fine. Your tire sizes will determine if you need the smaller or larger beads.

I have the Dynabeads in all my tires, both the dually truck and RV and the spares, a total of 12 tires. In addition I have the TST TPMS system sensors on all tires including the spares. I have not had any issues and tires are wearing well, no odd wear spots or vibration. I have the larger beads so did not need to change out the valves in the stems.

Been using the beads now for two years and all is well.

[Johnny_H]

If you have some kind of tire failure that may be stood behind by the manufacturer, good luck if you are running beads in them. Any kind of tire warranty is shot with them. I would suggest running centramatic balancers, A little pricey, but basically permanent and no issues with tire warranty.

[RAS43]

better check with the TPMS manufacturer to see if the beads/powder will plug up the sensor.

[RedRam]

Sometimes those rear kitchens are hard to keep things in place.I know a few times when we had a rear kitchen it seemed like somebody went in and moved things around.

[boogie_4wheel]

I ran Dynabeads on a motorcycle tire. ~15k miles later about half of them had turned to dust.
I'm now running airsoft pellets. I get a container of them from Walmart. They are the non-marking type, and you can get different weight beads (I get the heavier black ones). I have about 6-7oz in each of my truck tires, and 3oz in my motorcycle tires. They work great!
I do hear them roll around and cascade onto the aluminum wheels of my Dodge when going slower, or when approaching a stop you can hear them all fall down when the window is open. They've been on my truck for about a year now and I think they are great.