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95jersey
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Feb 26, 2018

Coleman 250TQ vs Forest River Wolf Pack 24pack14plus

I am thinking of upgrading to a Toy Hauler and these 2 are on the top of my list (bumper pull only). They both have Happijac bed (a must), enclosed bedroom and 2 rollover sofas, with spacious bathroom.

There is a big price difference, and I am scratching my head as to why? Both brands are know for quality, but the Coleman is about $6000+ cheaper. That is significant. The only difference I can see is the Wolf Pack has a ramp capable of turning into a patio and a fuel tank (for the toys). Other than than those 2 highlights, there is very minimal if any differences between the two. So trying to figure out if the patio and fuel tank are worth the extra $6000 or am I missing some important features that warrant the extra cost?

Any insight from folks who own them or have shopped similar trailers? I know there are other options even cheaper, but they don't have the happijack and/or enclosed bedroom. Let's keep the discussion on these two.

COLEMAN 250TQ
https://rv.campingworld.com/rvdetails/new-travel-trailer-toy-hauler-rvs/2018-coleman-coleman-lantern-250tq-toyhauler-10k-TAL1433447https://rv.campingworld.com/rvdetails/new-travel-trailer-toy-hauler-rvs/2018-coleman-coleman-lantern-250tq-toyhauler-10k-TAL1433447

WolfPack 25Pack 14 Plus
https://www.hitchrv.com/product/new-2018-forest-river-rv-cherokee-wolf-pack-24pack14plus-757410-28https://www.hitchrv.com/product/new-2018-forest-river-rv-cherokee-wolf-pack-24pack14plus-757410-28
  • Few other differences include exterior width (102" vs 96"), height (taller interior), power front jack, enclosed shower, generator compartment, also the forest river website lists fresh water as 100 gallons vs 60 in the coleman. If you like the WP you should check rv trader, there are several new units with aluminum siding from 20k-23k.
  • 1L243 wrote:
    I have a 2017 Coleman 300tq Toy hauler. My last Toy Hauler was a Work and Play 30WR. When I sold the Work and Play I had the bright Idea to down size to a smaller travel trailer can carry the bike in the back of the truck.. Big mistake. I sold the small travel trailer and discovered the 300tq. Like you I was impressed with the price. Work and Play 30wrs $45k Coleman 300tq $23k. I looked over the Coleman pretty good. I would say the Coleman is cheaper because there is not one ounce of aluminum or composite siding in the trailer. Yes, it's my first aluminum sided trailer but I could not get past the price difference. I bought the Coleman. Now it does not come with all the bells and whistles but it comes with more than you would think.. Sealed heated underbelly, happijac bed. I have the 2017 which has the double ramp and smaller 60" door. In 2018 they went to a full size door with dovetail floor and aluminum wheels. They also added stainless appliances and solar connection and dropped the price $1000 from the 2017 model. Go figure.

    I don't think your going to get them to drop the price any lower than the sale internet price. I got them to through in a battery lol!

    I have done a bunch of Mods and upgrades to the 300tq in the year that I have owned it. There is always room for improvement.

    have you looked at the 300tq the slide and separate garage is nice and still under 10k pounds.

    Here are some pics



    clicky on linky

    https://i.imgur.com/F0NOsri.mp4


    This is VERY helpful. The 300 is too big for me. I just don't need that much space and want to keep the budget at or under $20k. The 250 is a nice upgrade from where I am at now and a more reasonable length. I also have no issue with aluminum siding and wood frame. I have that now and it is solid as a rock. Glad to hear you are happy with it and the quality though. It would be nice to have the patio deck with the Wolf Pack, but not for $6000 more.
  • I have a 2017 Coleman 300tq Toy hauler. My last Toy Hauler was a Work and Play 30WR. When I sold the Work and Play I had the bright Idea to down size to a smaller travel trailer can carry the bike in the back of the truck.. Big mistake. I sold the small travel trailer and discovered the 300tq. Like you I was impressed with the price. Work and Play 30wrs $45k Coleman 300tq $23k. I looked over the Coleman pretty good. I would say the Coleman is cheaper because there is not one ounce of aluminum or composite siding in the trailer. Yes, it's my first aluminum sided trailer but I could not get past the price difference. I bought the Coleman. Now it does not come with all the bells and whistles but it comes with more than you would think.. Sealed heated underbelly, happijac bed. I have the 2017 which has the double ramp and smaller 60" door. In 2018 they went to a full size door with dovetail floor and aluminum wheels. They also added stainless appliances and solar connection and dropped the price $1000 from the 2017 model. Go figure.

    I don't think your going to get them to drop the price any lower than the sale internet price. I got them to through in a battery lol!

    I have done a bunch of Mods and upgrades to the 300tq in the year that I have owned it. There is always room for improvement.

    have you looked at the 300tq the slide and separate garage is nice and still under 10k pounds.

    Here are some pics



    clicky on linky

    https://i.imgur.com/F0NOsri.mp4
  • In reality there is no such thing as MSRP that I've found. So anything is negotiable. As for the amount that's hard to say but generally speaking 20-30% of but off of 20k that's unlikely. But I'd sure go in asking at least 15% off and see where they stand.
  • Y-Guy wrote:
    The other HUGE difference is the WolfPack has fiberglass sides vs the aluminum, that is a significant cost too, and generally speaking helps with resale too. The fuel tank is a big plus and means you're not carrying gas cans, but only you can decided if it's needed by you.

    I'm not sure where the quality comment comes from, but if you are going based on the Coleman name that is a non-factor, that is just a financial arrangement to use the name. The Coleman brand has nothing to do with quality. Dutchman makes the Coleman units.

    As far as price, you've listed the asking price my gut says you could probably negotiate them down to about the same price.


    So the pricing I have is their internet discounted rate, are you saying I can try and negotiate lower than that? If so how much lower can I request/expect? The list is $31,642, the internet discounted price $20,499. How much more do you think I could negotiate?
  • The other HUGE difference is the WolfPack has fiberglass sides vs the aluminum, that is a significant cost too, and generally speaking helps with resale too. The fuel tank is a big plus and means you're not carrying gas cans, but only you can decided if it's needed by you.

    I'm not sure where the quality comment comes from, but if you are going based on the Coleman name that is a non-factor, that is just a financial arrangement to use the name. The Coleman brand has nothing to do with quality. Dutchman makes the Coleman units.

    As far as price, you've listed the asking price my gut says you could probably negotiate them down to about the same price.
  • Besides the fuel tank and patio setup, the Wolf Pack has fiberglass siding vs aluminum on the Coleman. Fiberglass costs more.

    Also note: Some Forest River products can be ordered from the factory with electrically heated holding tanks. When I purchased my Flagstaff (it gets cold in the Chicago area), the dealer told me "he orders all of his stock units with that option installed". I don't know if Wolf Pack offers the same, but, it's possible that option is installed, too.