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stange
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Jul 21, 2014

convert 50 amps to 30 amps

We have a 2004 Forest River Cedar Creek 34ckts with 50 amps cord and breaker, and there is a camp ground my wife and I would like to park at but they only have 30 amps full hook up. With this drop, what damage could we do and could we operate everything or will the AC not get enough power? Thank you
  • Start off right and get a GOOD quality "dog bone" 50/30 adapter. They have yellow ends and have a "d" handle at each end to make it easier to separate. Don't buy the cheapest you can find.

    30 amp will be fine just put your frig and WH on propane also micro may not be able to be used.

    You will figure it out.
  • Leeblev wrote:
    First, get a 50/30 reducer. (Avail at Wallyworld and Campworld.
    Yes, your A/C will work. HOWEVER, a caution- Don't try to run it on 30 amps with the microwave or other appliances running or you will blow the breaker and may well toast your AC. I am very cautious about what we do when running the AC on 30 amps. I did toast an AC, so I don't want to repeat that experience.
    The big thing is that when you initially turn your AC on, it will draw 20 amps. After starting, it draws fewer amps. I have ran my microwave with the AC running, but only after the AC cycles. Never started the AC with other appliances running but one time, and it did take out my AC. Again, caution.


    Most likely the AC was toasted by low voltage. I have the PI hardwired surge protector for just that reason. It kills power to the rig when the voltage drops below 104v or above 132v. It has happened twice in the last month at state parks with 30a power. Both times low voltage.
  • 30 amp is no problem. We have a 40 foot 50 amp coach that we routinely run on 30 or 20 amp. Just be smart about what you run at the same time. Either way the worst that can happen is a pooped pedastal breaker. Go camping.
  • From our experience, with 30 amp we can run only ONE AC. Plus we can use coffee maker, toaster, TV's etc. if we need to run the microwave or run the hair dryer, we turn AC off for a few minutes until done. We do this because while camping at an older park one time with only 30 amp I tripped the breaker when I tried to use the microwave and AC was on. Nothing else was on at the time. It wouldn't have been a big deal but the breaker was not on the pedestal, it was inside the office building which was behind our site and the office was closed already. We had to track down manager (it wasn't too hard...he is related to us) to reset. He told us that is the only site without breakers on the panel. It wasn't too big of a deal but a little inconvenient for all involved so we learned to just be cautious and turn AC off before using another high powered appliance again if on 30 amp.
  • We spend every winter on 30 amps with no problems. Run water heater and refrigerator on 120V all the time. Toaster and microwave work fine, but not both at the same time.
  • I am not sure why you all are having problems. My first 5er had 30 amps and I ran the a/c and microwave and anything else I wanted and it was fine. Now with a larger trailer with 50 amps, I still run anything I want with no problems on 30 amp. The thing to be aware of is if a trailer has 2 a/c's. MY 5er has 50 amps only due to the fact that it is setup for a washer and dryer, but since I don't have them installed it's not a problem.
  • Yes you can live on 30 amps. No you can not run "Everything" at once. So while the A/C will not be run, yes run the water heater on electric, refrigerator on electric (if it is below 85F outside). When you decide it is warm enough that you want to start cooling the RV with the A/C, then change the water heater to gas only, refrigerator too. No big deal.

    The A/C normally will use about 12 amps, and on a hot day as much a 14 amps. Some people report running both A/C units on a 30 amp circuit, and that is possible when it is less than about 95F out, and the A/C units are not using the full amperage that they might on a really hot day!

    Other loads in the RV include the battery charger - sometimes as much as 5 or 8 amps when the battery is really discharged, but normally only about 1 amp when the battery is already full, and you are not running a lot of lights.

    TV set, DVD player, and other appliances like it might only use about 1 amp.

    Electric toaster, coffee maker, microwave - they can all use 10 - 12 amps each.

    Just use care to not run more than 2 appliaces at a time, and you will be fine.

    That said, it is possible that you will suffer from low voltage. Many campgrounds with only 30 amp services will install a 200 amp power panel, then run small #10 wire to each site. Then run more than 10 breakers on each phase of the electrical panel, or 10 each 30 amp breakers on each side of the 200 amp service, more than a 250 amp theoretical load on the 200 amp panel.

    While it might work "OK" on a moderate temperature day, on a hot day, the voltage will drop a lot. Also the #10 wire will drop about 8-10 volts if you are located more than about 200' from the electric panel. At the main panel, the power company might deliver 120 volts, but 200 - 300 feet away on small wire, the resistance in the wire will cause the voltage to drop about 8-10 volts over that distance.

    A 50 amp park is wired totally differently. Normally they will have only about 12 RV sites on 150 amp circuit, with larger #1 wire running everywhere, with less voltage loss over a long distance. The 150 amp circuit breakers come out of 800 amp rated power panels, wired with super large wires, so you normally will not have a large voltage loss over the distance from the meter to the RV.

    You might find that you need a voltage booster! It will take in the 100 volts delivered to your site, and convert it to 112 volts for your RV. Hughes Autoformer is one brand.

    Fred.
  • YES with a 30A to 50A adapter you can plug adapter into CG power pedestal then you 50A cord into the adapter.

    You will be limited to 30A total or CG pedestal breaker will trip. If it does.....reset it.

    Running water heater and fridge on propane (vs electric) will allow you to run most everything else.

    Our 5th wheel is 50A and we have used 30A many many many times over the years.

    Enjoy your trip to the different CG.
  • First, get a 50/30 reducer. (Avail at Wallyworld and Campworld.
    Yes, your A/C will work. HOWEVER, a caution- Don't try to run it on 30 amps with the microwave or other appliances running or you will blow the breaker and may well toast your AC. I am very cautious about what we do when running the AC on 30 amps. I did toast an AC, so I don't want to repeat that experience.
    The big thing is that when you initially turn your AC on, it will draw 20 amps. After starting, it draws fewer amps. I have ran my microwave with the AC running, but only after the AC cycles. Never started the AC with other appliances running but one time, and it did take out my AC. Again, caution.
  • You just have less available power. You use too much, you trip the pedestal breaker. You can pretty much use 2 high powered appliances. After tripping the pedestal a few times, you will learn what you can or can't use at the same time.

    Although my unitbis a 30amp unit, I still can use 13.5KBTU AC, HW or Micro at the same time. Nothing is being toasted (pun intended)