Cut Noose Cap to Raise Pin?

laknox wrote:

Mopar_Mudder wrote:
I have about 8" of clearance from the bed rail to the bottom of the 5vr. I can not adjust the hitch to lower it at all, Super Glide. I can not raise the pin box any higher because it is tight up against the fiberglass nose of the 5ver. The pin could physically go up another set of holes if I cut into the fiberglass noose to take a piece out of it as wide as the pin and 1-1/2" high so the pin box can slide up.

Can't get any pictures until next week end now.

How nose-high are you? If only a couple inches, I wouldn't worry about it. I'm in the same boat as you and, because I go off-road, I =need= the clearance and I don't worry about being 2" nose-high.

Lyle

Front is about 8" high then the back. Being a long trailer does help, It is about a 1.3deg up angle.

Correct Track suspension alignment install will get you 2".

Lyle

Mopar_Mudder wrote:
I have about 8" of clearance from the bed rail to the bottom of the 5vr. I can not adjust the hitch to lower it at all, Super Glide. I can not raise the pin box any higher because it is tight up against the fiberglass nose of the 5ver. The pin could physically go up another set of holes if I cut into the fiberglass noose to take a piece out of it as wide as the pin and 1-1/2" high so the pin box can slide up.

Can't get any pictures until next week end now.

How nose-high are you? If only a couple inches, I wouldn't worry about it. I'm in the same boat as you and, because I go off-road, I =need= the clearance and I don't worry about being 2" nose-high.

Lyle

RustyJC wrote:
Doesn't your Jayco have the Jake plates that the spring shackles are attached to? Our 1996 Designer 3030RKSS and 2000 Designer XL 3610RLTS did. If so, are the shackle bolts in the bottom holes of the Jake plates? Looking at your tires in the wheel wells, it doesn't look like it. Dropping the shackle bolts to the bottom holes of the Jake plates would raise the 5th wheel 3" to 4", IIRC. That would certainly help to level it out.

Rusty

The shakes have 3 holes on the ends of the springs and 2 holes in the middle where the link is.

The middle on is in the lowest hole. The ends of the springs are in the middle hole. So yes I could lower the ends one hole, but that is only going to gain me maybe 1/2", don't know if it is worth the effort. I would need to go up almost 7" to get level, not going to do that.

Doesn't your Jayco have the Jake plates that the spring shackles are attached to? Our 1996 Designer 3030RKSS and 2000 Designer XL 3610RLTS did. If so, are the shackle bolts in the bottom holes of the Jake plates? Looking at your tires in the wheel wells, it doesn't look like it. Dropping the shackle bolts to the bottom holes of the Jake plates would raise the 5th wheel 3" to 4", IIRC. That would certainly help to level it out.

Rusty

Here are some pictures of it hooked up. Seems to pull fine with no issues so I am going to run it for now. Other wise I have to start raising the suspension.

Their are 3 pictures

#1 Normal Height
#2 Alt Trailer Height
#3 Transport Height (can't actually drive it in this setting but I took a picture)

I would figure out how to raise the trailer 2" to fix a nose high condition (several options out there) before reducing the clearance between the truck bedrails and the 5er overhang ... even 8" is too close for me. A twist in a driveway or campground entrance (or off road) and you will customize both the 5er and truck in a blink of the eye.

Ford Super Duties have large (I think 3-4" tall) steel blocks under the springs. If you have a Ford maybe you could take them out or have a machine shop mill them down to about 2". I am not sure if this would affect your driveline or not

I did when I installed my MorRyde. I had to remove about 1/2" IIRC from the front part of the cutout where the king pin sits. I just used a small peanut grinder and a diamond tip cutting wheel.

I had to cut it because I had to raise the MorRyde up to bring the front of the 5er down.

valhalla360 wrote:
Something doesn't sound right. You should be able to drop either the pin or the hitch enough to get it down to 6" of clearnce.

If true, a simpler solution might be to find a shorter pinbox and bolt that in place.

I put on a TrailAir pin box which hangs down a lot further then an original 7910 pin box. But can't seem to find any original 7910 pins any more and they don't make them. The TrailAir I have it what they consider a replacement for the 7910, but it is longer and hangs down further, about the only thing that matches is the bolt holes.