Fifth wheel towing/truck capacity

anaro wrote:
Here's the story. We are looking at getting a new TH fiver. We currently have a Sabre fiver that weighs 12,300 lbs loaded. I know from catscale we have typically added 1500 lbs of stuff to our tt and to our fiver over the years. In figuring numbers I have allotted 2000 lbs for the next trailer (we have no toys but want the patio and extra bed).


These are my catscale numbers:
2014 Chevy Silverado 3500 (crew cab 4x4 duramax long bed LT package)
Truck specs
Gvwr 11,600 lbs
GCWR 24,500 lbs
GFAWR 5600 lbs
GRAWR 7050 lbs

Truck no trailer (reese 16k hitch in bed)--
Front axle 4900 lbs
Rear axle 3380 lbs
Total truck weight 8280 lbs
Available payload - 3320 lbs
Adjusted towing capacity- 16220 per numbers but manufacturer lists 16000 as my max so we will call it that.

Here is where I am confused. Does max towing capacity Apply to trailer gvwr or loaded trailer weight? We know we won't be loading these trailers to max, especially since I'm going to stay within rear gawr and payload.

For example one of the trailers I'm looking at is the Forest River vengeance 348A13. Sticker weight is 11,995 lbs. Gvwr is 16,398 lbs. Loaded would be 13,995 lbs. 23% pin weight would be 3218. This is within my limits but do I need to worry about gvwr being over? Thanks.

On edit- we are planning on upgrading to a 20k hitch.

I have a similar truck.

Here is may CAT scale - previous trailer.

Steer Axle - 4900 lbs
Drive Axle - 6060 lbs

Trailer Axle - 9220 lbs

Gross Weight - 20,180 lbs

Have not checked the weight of our new fifth wheel. It's shipping weight is about 1000 lbs more than our old one. So I expect to be closer to the GVWR of the truck.

I have air bags on the truck so it may shift a little more weight to the front axle. My truck weight is about 8100 lbs with me in it - tank full of fuel and hitch installed.

Mods that have been added that adds to the base weight of the truck:
Bed Rug bed liner, Luverne SS running boards, Air Lift LoadLifter 5000 air bags, Reese Custom Base and Rail Kit and Husky 16K hitch.

I did replace the head on my Husky hitch with the newer version after we purchased the 2017 fifth wheel. I had purchased the Husky hitch in 2003 when we went from a motor home to a fifth wheel and figured I would update it.