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PUCampin
Jun 13, 2013Explorer
carringb wrote:
You will be way over payload on that truck. That size TH will probably have at least 1600 pounds of tongue weight.
1/2-tons now have some great PULL ratings, but they still can't CARRY very much.
THIS!!!
Can you do it? It depends.
IF you have the HD PAYLOAD package with the HD axle and springs, it will be reflected on the door sticker by the 8200lb GVWR, 7 lug wheels, and a maximum of all passengers and cargo number north of 2300lbs on the yellow sticker. If you do not have the HD PAYLOAD package the yellow sticker will likely be in the 1500-1600 lb range and I would say forget a large toy hauler.
Subtract the weight of passengers and stuff and this is what you have left for tongue weight. You will then need to replace the stock receiver with a class IV/V because the stock class III/IV is almost always good for only 1000lbs tongue weight with weight distribution.
In general Half tons have always been limited by payload, not pulling ability, and here lies the problem. The total payload of the half ton is often low, sometimes not much above the maximum tongue weight, check the loading sticker for actual payload. Mine is 1675lbs, I have seen much lower on half ton trucks. If you have the HD package yours should be a little higher. Then you also have to be carefull about the rear axle capacity, the max payload sticker assumes some distribution across the axles, not everything over the rear.
The "Max Tow" rating is based on an Ideal trailer. An ideal trailer has little frontal area and the weight low and over the trailer axles, like a loaded flat deck or boat. These trailers have a tongue weight around 10%. This is why the F150 with towing package is rated around 10,000 lbs ..... but with a class III /IV receiver rated at 1000 lbs tongue weight.
Travel trailers are the OPPOSITE of ideal. Weight is higher up, unevenly distributed. They have huge frontal area which creates instability requiring heavier tongue weight to keep them stable. For a regular pull behind that is 13-15% So now that 1000lb max tongue weight means a loaded travel trailer weight of around 7600lbs.
Toy haulers are even worse!! To offset the potental toy load in back, they are VERY tongue heavy, and only some of that is returned when the toys are loaded.
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