Lifestyle Fifth Wheel/ Steel Frame

I have a Cedar Creek which has a Lippert frame. The frame crack and cost the insurance company 10k to repair. The repairs were done over and above making the area around the pin box better then factory new. I looked at Carriage then at Lifestyle. Great product and yes the frame is super and made in house. Then looked at Excel even went to their plant in Kansas. They make their own in house frame and it is a very good product. Looked at MS and yes their frame is made by Kippers. However I never could find anything negative about their frame. It is massive. Redwood Landmark and others all use basically the same 12 in. I beam cookie cutter frame. Is it bad I don't know. Frame failures are not as prevalent as a few years ago. Anyway after looking at the construction, floor plans and history I picked one to buy. LIfestyle is the same size as the Cameo and as full timers none of their floor plans met our needs. Excel came real close. Great build and factory support. We ordered a MS because one they had the floor plan that fits our needs. Their construction is as good or better then any of the top of the line fivers and they have good customer support. The price point must be considered also. Both Excel and MS when optioned out nicely will tip the scales at 150k or more retail. Good luck with your search.