New Tires

[Brewurown]

I done and made my choice and purchased 4 Sailun S637 tires for my Montana. I may have done the wrong thing and I guess time will tell. I'll keep you posted if I have any problems.

[NC_Hauler]

Me Again wrote:
You can read a little bit about the Saliun here.

This family of tires are marketed as regional all-position tires, however the 16" has a note that it is for trailer use only.

I find it a bit hard to believe that Saliun can get it right and Goodyear can not. Which brings us to the more recent G614's and if all of the problems have been resolved.

Chris

Chris, I'm in total agreement with you on this....With several now using these Sailun tires on 5er's with a little more GVW, I'm curious to see how they hold up...I believe that GY has fixed their problem, but again, that's just "me" thinking that.

ONLY reason I'd even consider a Sailun tire is due to all of the Quality processes put into their manufacturing process and getting the certifications proving it all out. I also get the impression that most of GY G614 issues were with possibly, 06-08 years?? Don't know, so I won't speculate. They were there for me and though a question as to why or how my tire lost it's tread, they didn't question it, just put 4 more tires on for me...heck, it was them that saw the weak spring pack and called it to my attention... I thought they were trying to back out of helping me, BUT they just wanted me to know about it....didn't deter them at all to replace, not one, but all 4 tires...customer service at it's best....Will Sailun do the same as GY if something happens to one of their tires and it causes damage to ones rv or tire replacement comes into the picture??....again, only time will tell...and I have several more years to look at the results of Sailun tires and it's customer service before having to decide on my next tire replacement, (well, hoping for that anyway)

[NC_Hauler]

rbturner wrote:
I have a fifthwheel with a GVWR of 24,000 pounds. It came with Goodyear, load range D, 65psi tires with a load rating of 3000 pounds per tire. When I ordered it I was told that due to my wheels selection, they could only put on the D range tires. Thus they derated my 7000 pound axles down to 6000 pounds.

WOW...I would be concerned if 5er does have a GVW of 24,000# and I only had 18,000# of tire weight coverage..."IF" loaded to full GVW, You would almost have to hope you had well MORE than a 6,000# pin weight just to break even...that would leave 18,000# or a little less on the three axles and the 6 "D" rated tires.

As you stated, sounds to me like limits are being pushed....and, it sounds like they're stating that YOU made the wheel selection, and could only use D rated tires due to your selection of wheels??, I personally, at the very least, would have 6 "E" rated Michelin RIBS or a comparable tire on your 5er....Doesn't make a lot of sense....the GVW of the 5er is 24,000, but if axes de-rated to only 6,000#, than in reality, they're stating, don't load over 18,000# on your 5er.....you don't have 6,000# of the 24,000# you could use due to the wheels you're saying you selected:h

ON EDIT: I'm ashamed, should have read your entire post...with 6 GY G614's, your 7,000# axles are covered and the 6 tires rated to handle 3750# each gives you 22,500# of coverage, so now you are MORE than covered with axle weight...figure pin weight, if you're loaded to 24,000# would "possibly" be 4800#...just a guesstimate...so you are good to go sounds like to me:)

[joebedford]

rbturner wrote:
I have a fifthwheel with a GVWR of 24,000 pounds. It came with Goodyear, load range D, 65psi tires with a load rating of 3000 pounds per tire.

You have FOUR axles? WOW!

[rbturner]

I have just been through the tire selection process. What a stressful event. I have read most of the postings on this site.

I have a fifthwheel with a GVWR of 24,000 pounds. It came with Goodyear, load range D, 65psi tires with a load rating of 3000 pounds per tire. When I ordered it I was told that due to my wheels selection, they could only put on the D range tires. Thus they derated my 7000 pound axles down to 6000 pounds. I always felt like I was running right at the edge of disaster with those tires. I did weigh the trailer and I was right on the edge of capacity. With the Marathon tires being 10 years old but showing no signs of deterioration I still felt they should be replaced. Early in their life I did have one failure. But, by the time I caught the failure all that was left of the tire was the bead and some of the belting. Subsequent to that failure, the tire behind it developed a bulge in the sidewall. This is a tri-axle by the way.

I looked at the Carlisle RH, 235 80R 16 which would be a direct replacement size. The rims on my trailer being only good for 65 psi would need to be replaced too. A look at the Carlisle website revealed a statement that they claimed their tires were good for 1-3 years and about 8000 miles. I looked at the Michelin Rib tires but was turned off by their website stating that any tire used for trailering was not warranted. So, I went to look at the Maxxis tire because I had read good about them. I also looked at the Goodyear G 614. Warranted for 4 years; they have a good reputation on this site for trailer damage repair. They are good for 3750 pounds at 110 psi. I ordered 6 and new rims; good for 3900 pounds and capable of 110 psi. Rims were hard to find in my bolt pattern and lug bolt size in Aluminum.

I considered going to 17.5" wheels but at $250 per wheel, I stopped looking when I saw that price.

So, the search is over. $3300.00 and like a lot of you folks, I hope that I did the "right" thing.

[Me_Again]

You can read a little bit about the Saliun here.

This family of tires are marketed as regional all-position tires, however the 16" has a note that it is for trailer use only.

I find it a bit hard to believe that Saliun can get it right and Goodyear can not. Which brings us to the more recent G614's and if all of the problems have been resolved.

Chris

[NC_Hauler]

Rob_Fla wrote:
We have been running the Saliun S637 on our Jayco Pinnacle for a little over a year now.

We currently have about 10,000 miles on them, no problems so far, no abnormal tire wear, they all balanced with very little weight.

The Saliun Tire is a high quality tire, a very heavy tire too.

Thanks for the heads up....if you'll keep us posted it would be greatly appreciated. What is the GVW of your 5er and the axle ratings, if you don't mind me asking?

[Rob_Fla]

We have been running the Saliun S637 on our Jayco Pinnacle for a little over a year now.

We currently have about 10,000 miles on them, no problems so far, no abnormal tire wear, they all balanced with very little weight.

The Saliun Tire is a high quality tire, a very heavy tire too.

[NC_Hauler]

kennethwooster wrote:
Due to so much damage by tires blowing,and then downtime while trailer gets repaired, I just would not take the chance. I hope the best for you. I've ran either Michelin or Maxxis. I've had one tire go down, and it was Maxxis Repair guy felt it had a nail and it was just going down when someone had me pull over.

Bummer is, the OP is talking a "G" rated tire, not an "E".....there are not a lot of options in a "G" rated tire out there for those of us who want to "err" to the side of safety....if Michelin manufactured "G" rated RIB, that's' what would be on my 5er...but they don't, and I do opt to put tires on my 5er that are rated to cover the axle weight rating plus.....

I'm not going to a 17.5" wheel and tire, initial cost is too much for me personally...I've heard all the arguments as to why one should go to this, but I can't buy into the initial cost. My 5er is almost 7 yrs old and I had one tire failure which very well might have been caused by the weak spring pack that lowered that part of my 5er enough to have ripped the tread off my tire...just not 100% for sure on that one now that know what all happened at the time..AND GY saw this also, BUT opted to put 4 brand new tires on my 5er for me..pretty doggone good no matter what happened

So, if one has "G" rated tires come on their 5er and that is what is recommended due to the weight of one's 5er and one doesn't have the money to spring for 4-5 brand new 17.5 wheel's and tires...then "G" rated tires are the only option....and we know the selection out there is thin...I will stick with GY G614 tires because they have proven out, but when it comes time to purchase new tires and there is a more affordable tire offered with a proven track record, I may look around...I will not compromise my 5er's load carrying capacity by putting an "E" rated tire on it.. With a GVW of 16,500 # and 7,000# rated axles....I don't think it would be in my best interest to go that route.

If the "G" rated Sailun "proves out", then to me, it will be a viable option to the GY G614.

again, time will tell, with reports on these and other forums by those who have purchased the G rated Sailun tires as to how they have performed...I'll be curious to read the reports.

[NC_Hauler]

Cummins12V98 wrote:

NC Hauler wrote:

Brewurown wrote:
I done and made my choice and purchased 4 Sailun S637 tires for my Montana. I may have done the wrong thing and I guess time will tell. I'll keep you posted if I have any problems.

Keep us posted on how they work for you. the Sailun tires have been discussed on here and though manufactured in China, meet some pretty stringent Quality process data that has given them credibility as a tire manufacturer, unlike quite a few of the other China manufactured tires.

Don't think you've "done the wrong thing"...I too will look at the Sailun "G" rated tire next time I get ready to purchase tires for my 5er.


One of the few Chinese tire manufacturers that appear to take their manufacturing processes seriously and are making gains in the Quality process aspect of the job from the certifications they have received.

I'm curious to see how this tire performs, please keep us informed if you don't mind.

thank you,

Do you think Sailun will pay for your trailer damage like GY will if you have a blow out?

I will stick to US Made quality tires.

It's a good question and one I can't answer....If there are no issues with the tires, one may NEVER know the answer to your question. Only time will tell. That is one thing GY will do if there is a tire failure...bummer is, it should never happen in the first place...Hopefully, the Sailun tire has enough quality control processes put in place that the answer to your question will be a moot point....just like it SHOULD be with the GY G614 tire.

By the time I need tires again, (if no tire failure issues), we should have some answers about the Sailun tire on just how good or badly it performs, and IF a tire failure occurs will the Sailun manufacturer step up and do the same thing for it's customer that GY does.


........................only time will tell.......................

[kennethwooster]

Due to so much damage by tires blowing,and then downtime while trailer gets repaired, I just would not take the chance. I hope the best for you. I've ran either Michelin or Maxxis. I've had one tire go down, and it was Maxxis Repair guy felt it had a nail and it was just going down when someone had me pull over.

[LostinAZ]

Cummins12V98 wrote:

NC Hauler wrote:

Brewurown wrote:
I done and made my choice and purchased 4 Sailun S637 tires for my Montana. I may have done the wrong thing and I guess time will tell. I'll keep you posted if I have any problems.

Keep us posted on how they work for you. the Sailun tires have been discussed on here and though manufactured in China, meet some pretty stringent Quality process data that has given them credibility as a tire manufacturer, unlike quite a few of the other China manufactured tires.

Don't think you've "done the wrong thing"...I too will look at the Sailun "G" rated tire next time I get ready to purchase tires for my 5er.


One of the few Chinese tire manufacturers that appear to take their manufacturing processes seriously and are making gains in the Quality process aspect of the job from the certifications they have received.

I'm curious to see how this tire performs, please keep us informed if you don't mind.

thank you,

Do you think Sailun will pay for your trailer damage like GY will if you have a blow out?

I will stick to US Made quality tires.

X2

[Cummins12V98]

NC Hauler wrote:

Brewurown wrote:
I done and made my choice and purchased 4 Sailun S637 tires for my Montana. I may have done the wrong thing and I guess time will tell. I'll keep you posted if I have any problems.

Keep us posted on how they work for you. the Sailun tires have been discussed on here and though manufactured in China, meet some pretty stringent Quality process data that has given them credibility as a tire manufacturer, unlike quite a few of the other China manufactured tires.

Don't think you've "done the wrong thing"...I too will look at the Sailun "G" rated tire next time I get ready to purchase tires for my 5er.


One of the few Chinese tire manufacturers that appear to take their manufacturing processes seriously and are making gains in the Quality process aspect of the job from the certifications they have received.

I'm curious to see how this tire performs, please keep us informed if you don't mind.

thank you,

Do you think Sailun will pay for your trailer damage like GY will if you have a blow out?

I will stick to US Made quality tires.

[dqdick]

We're also watching this on the Montana forum. Several folks there are trying them out.

[NC_Hauler]

Brewurown wrote:
I done and made my choice and purchased 4 Sailun S637 tires for my Montana. I may have done the wrong thing and I guess time will tell. I'll keep you posted if I have any problems.

Keep us posted on how they work for you. the Sailun tires have been discussed on here and though manufactured in China, meet some pretty stringent Quality process data that has given them credibility as a tire manufacturer, unlike quite a few of the other China manufactured tires.

Don't think you've "done the wrong thing"...I too will look at the Sailun "G" rated tire next time I get ready to purchase tires for my 5er.


One of the few Chinese tire manufacturers that appear to take their manufacturing processes seriously and are making gains in the Quality process aspect of the job from the certifications they have received.

I'm curious to see how this tire performs, please keep us informed if you don't mind.

thank you,