Noob as noob gets. Non commercial class A license?

[YzHunter]

I need advice on non commercial class A license in California. Just bought a 3500 HD and a cyclone 4200. Was told I have to get a new class to tow the 5th wheel. Any one with experience with this? Bought myself into a hole. Thanks in advance.

[kelly4hand]

Whew! Ok good, thx!

[colliehauler]

kelly4hand wrote:
What if you are hauling across country on vacation? Or do they go by the requirements of the state your license is issued at??

Requirements of the state your licensed in.

[colliehauler]

Ropdoc wrote:
now we are talking california only right?

Kansas requires a noncommercial class A for anything GCWR 26001# and above.

[kelly4hand]

What if you are hauling across country on vacation? Or do they go by the requirements of the state your license is issued at??

[TXiceman]

Texas requires a non-commercial Class for a GCVWR of 26,001# or more and towing a trailer over 10,000#. If your Weight is 26,001 # or more and towing under 10,000#, you need a class B non-commercial. You take a written test over a portion of the commercial license manual and then a driving test with the truck and trailer or motorhome.

They are not that hard.

Ken

[kelly4hand]

so is this just in Calif. or do all states require a class A. We are in Fl. and was told if you are pulling a personal camper, no need for different license...??

[mrw8i]

BoonHauler wrote:
Okay, I see it's time for a call to the DMV again...... Jeeezzzz.

I need to check on the 10k endorsement as well, someone mentioned it's only good for two years..... more Jeeezzzz.

If you are attempting to get the license for 5th Wheel RV above 10,000 lbs and less than 15,000 lbs, GVWR here is some information that might be useful for anyone you are talking to at the DMV. There might be one or two persons at the DMV office who might know what you are talking about.

It is called a Restriction 41 - Class A
You will need to take 2 written tests.
1 - The Class C, which you should already know, but take the online practice test.
2 - Test number DL 656 (REV. 4/2008) and titled "Driver's Examination for Recreational Vehicles and Noncommercial Class A Trailers".
You will have to take an eye test.

DMV Handbook

[musicman54]

glad im in oregon

[BoonHauler]

Okay, I see it's time for a call to the DMV again...... Jeeezzzz.

I need to check on the 10k endorsement as well, someone mentioned it's only good for two years..... more Jeeezzzz.

[Tango__AE7UI]

A very good reason to never move back to CA.
Used to live in So CA and glad we are out of there.

[Dtank]

BoonHauler wrote:

sdetweil wrote:

BoonHauler wrote:
I was under the assumption that once you've passed the written (Non-Comm Class A) test you're issued a 'Permit' and have one year to take the driving test. If you do not do so the 'Permit' expires.

I haven't heard anything about a requirement for having a Non-Comm Class A licensed driver with you, that's a new one on me. And I've researched the subject thoroughly.

Search the Toyhauler sub-forum for this topic, it's been discussed many times.

how you gonna get the trailer there (legally) if you don't have a license? Same thing when I was 16.. someone (with a license) had to drive me to the drivers test location..

I'm specifically talking about CA. Once you have the 'Permit' it's okay to trailer without a class A 'Licensed' driver. Once again, you have 1 year to complete the 'driving' test.

You drive the trailer to the DMV office. Additionally, not all DMV offices are available for this test, only certain ones. In the S.F. Bay Area it's the Fremont Office that handles the Class A drivers tests.

"I'm specifically talking about CA. Once you have the 'permit' it's okay to trailer without a Class A 'Licensed' driver."

*WRONG* !!..:(

*NOT OK*..:(

Although the DMV driving examiner might *not* ask who/where the driver is that's accompanying you (to get to the testing office) while driving with a permit, but the DMV regs clearly state......

Go to the CA DMV Non-commercial Class A check list.
At the bottom of the check list, click the link for more info.

The link takes you to lengthy info - go to, "How to apply for an non-commercial License" - and then to -
Requirements for a noncommercial Class A driver permit"

(Finally) the important quote:
"Once you have completed these requirements, you will be issued a permit.
You can only drive with a person who has a California driver's license in the same class as your permit and meets the age requirements."
End quote.

Simply stated, with a permit - anytime you are towing your trailer (requiring a Class A non-commercial license) - you must have a person with a CA non-commercial Class A license with you.

The DMV examiner may not ask where he/she is, but most CHP officers will..:(


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[BoonHauler]

sdetweil wrote:

BoonHauler wrote:
I was under the assumption that once you've passed the written (Non-Comm Class A) test you're issued a 'Permit' and have one year to take the driving test. If you do not do so the 'Permit' expires.

I haven't heard anything about a requirement for having a Non-Comm Class A licensed driver with you, that's a new one on me. And I've researched the subject thoroughly.

Search the Toyhauler sub-forum for this topic, it's been discussed many times.

how you gonna get the trailer there (legally) if you don't have a license? Same thing when I was 16.. someone (with a license) had to drive me to the drivers test location..

I'm specifically talking about CA. Once you have the 'Permit' it's okay to trailer without a class A 'Licensed' driver. Once again, you have 1 year to complete the 'driving' test.

You drive the trailer to the DMV office. Additionally, not all DMV offices are available for this test, only certain ones. In the S.F. Bay Area it's the Fremont Office that handles the Class A drivers tests.

[sdetweil]

BoonHauler wrote:
I was under the assumption that once you've passed the written (Non-Comm Class A) test you're issued a 'Permit' and have one year to take the driving test. If you do not do so the 'Permit' expires.

I haven't heard anything about a requirement for having a Non-Comm Class A licensed driver with you, that's a new one on me. And I've researched the subject thoroughly.

Search the Toyhauler sub-forum for this topic, it's been discussed many times.

how you gonna get the trailer there (legally) if you don't have a license? Same thing when I was 16.. someone (with a license) had to drive me to the drivers test location..

[BoonHauler]

I was under the assumption that once you've passed the written (Non-Comm Class A) test you're issued a 'Permit' and have one year to take the driving test. If you do not do so the 'Permit' expires.

I haven't heard anything about a requirement for having a Non-Comm Class A licensed driver with you, that's a new one on me. And I've researched the subject thoroughly.

Search the Toyhauler sub-forum for this topic, it's been discussed many times.