I have a Silverback 31RK(rear kitchen). I'm having things break in the cabinets, even the glass plate in the microwave broke. I ordered a Trailaire pinbox that is on backorder and I'm starting to wonder if that will really help. Will a Trailaire pinbox help the ride in the rear of the camper?trailair Pinbox or should I get a Rota-Flex Pinbox?

It might help a bit but you're not not going to stop the rear of your trailer from bouncing down the road and breaking things. Perhaps why the vast majority of trailers have their kitchens over the wheels.

Does your SB have shocks on the axles? If not add them.

Trailer susp ugrade. Independant suspension, Equa-flex, Mor-Ryde. I think shocks come w/ CC's (at least they used to). IMO, don't think a air ride pin box will help you in keeping rear bounce down.

We have had our rear kitchen model for 6 years now, towed it around 35K miles over much of the country and part of Canada. We have never had a broken dish or anything else. Things do move sometimes but that is to be expected with the roads we have. Lots of things can cause your problem like overinflated tires, suspension, weight distribution, etc. To answer your question, I would think the Trail Air pin box would more beneficial as it will add some cushioning between the truck and the trailer. I would also look at adding shocks if that did not get the results you want. Ours came with them so not sure how much of an improvement they would be. A little bit of overkill, but about 3 years ago I decided to do some upgrades that I thought might help extend the life of our fifth wheel. I added a Center Point air suspension system which was a Trail Air product before Lippert bought them which did help smooth out the ride even more. Later I sold the B&W and got a Trailer Saver BD3 air ride hitch which really cuts out the jolting interaction between the truck and the trailer. In addition, I had a set of Air Lift air bags from a previous truck so I put them on the GMC for no good reason other than I had them. I'm not sure if they would help with your situation or not.I think you are on the right track by trying to isolate the truck and trailer with the Trail Air. You didn't say, but if you have some bucking or chucking, which is not good for a rear kitchen, or any other type for that matter, the Trail Air can help with that. My honest opinion is that an air ride hitch would be more beneficial, but, it costs more. If that fails you may have to look at the trailer's suspension. There are a lot of options for things to try but they also can cost a bit. Good luck and let us know how it goes.

donn0128 wrote:Does your SB have shocks on the axles? If not add them.ACZL wrote:Trailer susp ugrade. Independant suspension, Equa-flex, Mor-Ryde. I think shocks come w/ CC's (at least they used to). IMO, don't think a air ride pin box will help you in keeping rear bounce down.Pin box is going to do S*** for your breakage issues, might make your ride better, but the 5er is still back there beating its self to death!!See the two post above, level the 5er so it isn't trying to hop over bumps. SHOCKS!!! this will make the best improvement, and wet bolts. If it isn't current set up for shocks Lippert makes a kit with shocks (made in China) well the brackets are good!! :S I got about two years out of the shocks, just replaced with Monroe 555001's and we are back to a very smooth ride. This is with a standard pin box.Keep in mind too many go for the "quick Fix" which really isn't a fix at all it just mask the issues the 5er has. One really needs to fix the 5er, then think about the ride in the TV, because once the 5er is fixed, the TV ride will be much better also.

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Tango__AE7UI
Explorer
Jun 06, 2017
I have a 28 ft fw with a rear kitchen.
Standard suspension and no shocks.
It is a 2007 model and we have never had anything break.
We don't do anything special to pack up for a trip.
1 ton truck with a B&W Companion hitch.
I leave the coffee maker and a toaster oven on the counter top and they are still in the same place when we stop.
My max speed is 60 since the ST tires are rated for a max of 65.
Racine96
Explorer
Jun 04, 2017
I have a Columbus 34RK, nothing broke except a couple of coffee cups handles. My hunch is that the difference is on the suspension. Look at it in the webpage and compare it. You probably will see the difference.
travelnutz
Explorer II
Jun 04, 2017
Had 3 Carriage 5th wheels with rear kitchens and still have one of them and NOTHING has ever moved at all or broken including thin stemmed wine glasses in the across the rear upper cupboards. "E" range tires at 80 psi always but of course, Carriage always has had rear shocks on all their 5th wheels and TT's on all axles.

A few years ago we were traveling along with some friends who had a 34' Bounder MH on a 2 lane road and their engine quit and barely got the rig driver side even with the paved road as there was a ditch nest to the road. Rather than the wife and their 3 kids sitting along side the busy highway as dangerous as that can be, they along with my wife sat in our carriage 5th wheel and the hubby locked up the MH with the flashers going and got in our truck with me and our dog for going to town about 47 miles away. He'd called on his cell to make sure they had the things needed to fix it and drove back again as he's an automotive repair person for his work and knew just what he needed.

The 2 wives commented that wow! the ride was really smooth and quiet and as good as riding in a car and no sway at all and could talk like if they were just sitting at the dining room table at home. The MH wife said it was so much smoother and quieter than in their MH and it wasn't a very smooth road either as it needed re-surfing badly. I personally have never ridden in the 5th wheel and was curious and we had had MU's ourselves.

Proper suspension with adequate shocks makes a huge difference!
mileshuff
Explorer
Jun 04, 2017
Never once had anything so much as move in our rear kitchen. I accidentally left a glass on the kitchen counter while traveling. It didn't even tip. 5'er does have lippert equaflex installed. Never any problems others talk about.

I've lined all of the cabinet bottoms with thin no slip padding. Keeps things from sliding.
rhagfo
Explorer III
Jun 04, 2017
Crodad wrote:
OK, I canceled my order for the Trailair Kingpin. I'm thinking about going the shock absorber route now. This may help the rear of the camper from bouncing as much as it is now.

Lippert shock kit

The kit is very nice and simple, but you will likely only get a couple years out of the shocks, as they are made in China. We just replace ours with Monroe 555001 shocks and it is smooth.
slickest1
Explorer
Jun 04, 2017
We had an 2006 28ft Sierra Fifth Wheel with a rear kitchen. We had to tie everything down and put locks on the cupboard doors. Everything had to be packed just so. It did not have shocks.
We just bought an older 2001 Citation and it has a rear kitchen. We pulled it 200 miles home and over some rough road as well. I forgot and left the rod for opening the awning leaning against the wall in a corner and when we got home it was still standing there. The chairs were standing at the table un tethered and had not moved. This trailer has shocks. I don't know if that is the difference or just a better build but we were pretty impressed.
Sonora108
Explorer
Jun 03, 2017
We own a 2013 Arctic Fox 27-5L 5th wheel with a rear kitchen. When we first got it I was concerned about the rear kitchen because of things I had read but we've never had a single problem with anything breaking. It did come with shocks on all four tires and a Reese 5th Airborne pin box.
Bill
Crodad
Explorer
Jun 03, 2017
OK, I canceled my order for the Trailair Kingpin. I'm thinking about going the shock absorber route now. This may help the rear of the camper from bouncing as much as it is now.

Lippert shock kit
sue_t
Explorer
Jun 02, 2017
Haven't had any breakage or discombobulation with our rear kitchen fifth wheel, even though we travel the Alaska Highway and hit frost heaves all the time. The shocks seem to do the trick.

Once I forgot to put the lid on the dog water bucket, and four hours of travelling later it was still sitting on the kitchen floor full of water.
IBcarguy
Explorer
Jun 01, 2017
I'm sure that the pinbox will help soften the jolt and jerking from the trailer to the TV but if you still have issues you'll need to work on the trailer suspension. You are on the right track because you need to do something to soften the ride. If you are breaking dishes, you can image the stress it causes on your trailer over every bump in the road. The next thing will be leaks from seams splitting open from the rig being jolted around.