Sailun Tires?

FastEagle wrote:
A few years ago when I first started asking people to research the manufacturing plants certifications I was just about drummed out of the threads by the nay sayers.

Those that are actually familiar with large manufacturing processes know just how important certifications really are when it comes time to market their products. I’m glad to see there is more interest in just who is making our tires from over there and what kind of management and quality assurance guidelines are actually in place at those huge manufacturing facilities.

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FastEagle

I've been working with these certifications for over 21 years...I'm VERY familiar with them..and work in a very large manufacturing plant that NEEDS to meet these criteria each year or we would lose customers WORLD wide...Don't recollect you talking much about these or I would have noticed it much earlier...don't see those certifications with most ST tires made...it's a very rare bird to say the least. IF you had hit that topic and I overlooked it, I apologize, but most tires you push on these forums DO NOT have these certifications to vouch for their quality and manufacturing processes.

MOST all Chinese made tire manufacturers DO NOT have these accreditations..they don't care much about quality ....or records to prove out training, quality and manufacturing processes...It's there for the research.

.I've been through these "audits" annually for the last 21 years....and they're are not easy to achieve...EVERY department in a manufacturing plant is audited for every process involved in running a manufacturing plant, be it HR, finance, R&D, records of training, Watching the operators run processes to make sure they are following Work or operating instructions as they do their job....operators can be asked specific questions about their job, and it's best they know the correct answer....Shipping, receiving, the vendors one uses...It's all about records, records and more records and PROOF of ALL quality and manufacturing processes...I've been on the teams that prepares the plant for these audits. AND, as stated...IF you get a "finding", it can be a "minor' or a "major"...then you have "X" amount of time to "fix it"....if you don't or can't...your toast...

I know about the Sailun, the GY G614 and several others that will work on "MY 5er"..I know the processes and will accept process certification to help me make up my mind on what tire I will purchase because I KNOW what goes into the manufacturing process to get the certifications and what it takes to achieve it and MAINTAIN it over the years.

IF I can "save a buck" next time I purchase a tire, and Sailun has proven out by owner satisfaction, AND they STILL hold certifications proving out their manufacturing and quality processes...cheap price or not I WILL consider and possibly purchase them to put on my 5er because I would feel fine doing so. Prices are competitive, and in this instance, knowing what I know about the manufacturing processes of the Sailun tire will make it a viable choice for me.

I wouldn't purchase 5 17.5" rims and tires if not needed. Quite expensive in my view, but I know that the GY G614 will work on my 5er as well as the Sailun and a few more Chris has mentioned...all will be looked at when I purchase tires next for my 5er.

They work fine on my 6.5" rims.

The second reply:

We are in receipt of your inquiry. The Sailun S637, 215/75R17.5 tire has an all steel body, it can be used on a 6.5" rim and indeed, it weighs 56 pounds.

Thank you,


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I sent Simple tire an email and got this back from them. "Sailun does not advertise it as an all-steel, and they only list the recommended rim width. The tire weighs 56 pounds each."

So I have an email off to Gosailun for more info.

Spending the money for 17.5 rims and then installing a tire with little history seems a little strange. Might be better to spend the 100 each more for Sumitomo ST727 215/75R17.5 tires. They have an approve rim width of 6-6.75" same as the Michelin XZE2. For some reason the XZA Michelin area of their web site is down right now.

Chris

Hello-

I am considering a jump to the Sailun S637 17.5" tires. For those who made this move (such as Jerry B?), do the S637 215/75-17.5 tires work with a typical 17.5" x 6.75" wide wheel?

I ask because the Sailun literature specifically recommends a 6.00" wide wheel for this 215/75-17.5 tire. The S637 235/75-17.5 is listed for a 6.75" wheel (as are most others like the GY G114), but I am interested in confirming compatability with the S637 215/75 before making the investment.

Thanks,
Eric

The only problem I see with the Sailun S637 LT235/85-16 G is that is taller that the ST235/80R16 and GY G614 LT235/85R16G which causes clearance issues for some. Like LT235/85R16E's one needs at least 33" axle spacing.

Chris

op says wrote:
With 17.5s I have a much better selection of tires than with the old 16s (GoodYears only).

And the Sailun S637 LT235/85-16 G load range at the same 3750 lb capacity.

I see the 16" Sailuns are one of the more popular tires for trailers on construction and commercial haulers forums. One tough tire especially around a construction worksite or trailer on the road full time.

I got my new tires and wheels today for my upgrade from 16 G rated tires to 17.5 H rated. The Sailun S637 tires look fantastic and are all steel. Total cost for the tires was $660 shipped. The 17.5 inch Aluminum HiSpec wheels were a total of $830 shipped. Altogether the total price with $20 per tire mounting and balance came up to $1550. Can't beat the price. With 17.5s I have a much better selection of tires than with the old 16s (GoodYears only).

NC Hauler wrote:

I don't like chinese made tires, no quality control processes in place, BUT Sailun tires DO have quality control processes in place and DO make a quality product.


When it comes time to replace my GY G614's, I WILL look at the Sailun G rated tires, and ONE reason will be because they ARE cheaper...got to love competition..you would think GY would drop their prices to compete, but evidently they're not worried about Sailun...only thing is, those that know manufacturing standards, eventually will see that the Sailun tire is a Quality built tire, or they would not have gained the TS16949 accreditation. IF they lose that accreditation, then I will remove them from my very short list on quality made G rated tires available for my 5th wheel, or if I start reading negative reports here on these forums. So far I haven't seen a negative report on these tires that are being reported on by our members on this and other forums....not the first negative yet....That CAN speak volumes on these tires...And again, I'm talking the only tire I'm really interested in...a G rated tire, though this company, with Quality processes in place, should be able to manufacture all their tires in a Quality manner at this point.

Thanks NC.....some people have missed, or didn't read, about the quality standards and accreditation Sailun has earned in their manufacturing of quality tires.

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Jerry B wrote:
I found the Sailun S637 size 215/75 R17.5 tires on Simple Tire. $680 for 4 tires delivered. Now I need to find aluminum wheels. I will probably go for them.

One of the vendors like SW Wheel, Etrailer etc should be able to provide them in a pre mounted and balanced package. Make sure you get the correct rims for you wheel stud size. Lug or hub centric!

Chris

Thanks I will. Mile are 8 bolt 9/16, 6.5, 0 offset and lug bolt centered.