โDec-29-2022 05:49 AM
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โJan-08-2023 10:19 AM
Cummins12V98 wrote:Lantley wrote:Cummins12V98 wrote:
Why did CLEAN and ABUNDANT Natural Gas become EVIL???
Fracking caused contaminated wells and gave the industry a black eye.
Yes it's plentiful but at what cost?
It maybe clean burning but it is debatable how clean it is to produce.
From what I have seen not as bad as all the raping of millions of tons to get the precious metals for the EV industry.
My point was it was going to be the second coming until someone got the great idea to convince the GREENIES that EV's are clean and green, NOT!!!
โJan-08-2023 07:41 AM
โJan-08-2023 07:36 AM
goducks10 wrote:Michelle.S wrote:
Without getting political the good old Pres said the Military would be all electric by 2035, I believe that was the date. No mention how they were going to fly Jets or move our Aircraft Carriers.
Guess I didn't see that. Hmmm. Don't think that will happen.
โJan-08-2023 07:35 AM
Lantley wrote:Cummins12V98 wrote:
Why did CLEAN and ABUNDANT Natural Gas become EVIL???
Fracking caused contaminated wells and gave the industry a black eye.
Yes it's plentiful but at what cost?
It maybe clean burning but it is debatable how clean it is to produce.
โJan-08-2023 04:34 AM
nickthehunter wrote:
So where do you get your groceries from seeing as you want to ensure everything is safe? And your prescriptions? And your drinking water? Can't trust government or corporations. Need I go on?
toedtoes wrote:
You're digging in the weeds way off in the forest...
We're talking about natural gas and why it isn't more popular. It's because the natural gas business has chosen to use cheap methods of extraction that destroy our planet. If they, and the governments, could be trusted to use safer and more environmentally sound techniques, then it'd be different. But they have CHOSEN to go with the cheap unsafe unsound techniques knowing they are unsafe and unsound in the name of profits - and by doing such, they are no longer a viable solution for environmentally sound energy.
โJan-07-2023 05:15 PM
โJan-07-2023 02:10 PM
toedtoes wrote:So where do you get your groceries from seeing as you want to ensure everything is safe? And your prescriptions? And your drinking water? Can't trust government or corporations. Need I go on?nickthehunter wrote:Lantley wrote:The same can be said for any similar activity in the industrialized world; such as mining, building dams, or just manufacturing in general (steel companies were notorious for pollution, communities discharging sewers to rivers - even to this day, etc.).Cummins12V98 wrote:
Why did CLEAN and ABUNDANT Natural Gas become EVIL???
Fracking caused contaminated wells and gave the industry a black eye.
Yes it's plentiful but at what cost?
It maybe clean burning but it is debatable how clean it is to produce.
However, with proper technics and safeguards in place, the risks are effectively minimized. Or - we can be perfectly safe just go back to the stone age when there were no man made risks in life.
The problem is that businesses prefer to not use "proper techniques and safeguards" because they are more expensive. And we can't trust the governments to ensure the "proper techniques and safeguards". So that minimal risk has a very bad habit of turning into disasters. And anyone who has experienced one of those disasters will tell you it's not worth it.
โJan-07-2023 01:43 PM
goducks10 wrote:Michelle.S wrote:
Without getting political the good old Pres said the Military would be all electric by 2035, I believe that was the date. No mention how they were going to fly Jets or move our Aircraft Carriers.
Guess I didn't see that. Hmmm. Don't think that will happen.
โJan-07-2023 01:22 PM
nickthehunter wrote:Lantley wrote:The same can be said for any similar activity in the industrialized world; such as mining, building dams, or just manufacturing in general (steel companies were notorious for pollution, communities discharging sewers to rivers - even to this day, etc.).Cummins12V98 wrote:
Why did CLEAN and ABUNDANT Natural Gas become EVIL???
Fracking caused contaminated wells and gave the industry a black eye.
Yes it's plentiful but at what cost?
It maybe clean burning but it is debatable how clean it is to produce.
However, with proper technics and safeguards in place, the risks are effectively minimized. Or - we can be perfectly safe just go back to the stone age when there were no man made risks in life.
โJan-07-2023 01:19 PM
Michelle.S wrote:
Without getting political the good old Pres said the Military would be all electric by 2035, I believe that was the date. No mention how they were going to fly Jets or move our Aircraft Carriers.
โJan-07-2023 08:37 AM
Lantley wrote:The same can be said for any similar activity in the industrialized world; such as mining, building dams, or just manufacturing in general (steel companies were notorious for pollution, communities discharging sewers to rivers - even to this day, etc.).Cummins12V98 wrote:
Why did CLEAN and ABUNDANT Natural Gas become EVIL???
Fracking caused contaminated wells and gave the industry a black eye.
Yes it's plentiful but at what cost?
It maybe clean burning but it is debatable how clean it is to produce.
โJan-07-2023 07:58 AM
Cummins12V98 wrote:
Why did CLEAN and ABUNDANT Natural Gas become EVIL???
โJan-07-2023 07:25 AM