Then what?

[relaxin]

So most governments have set a time line when the end of the internal combustion engine Must occur,

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So then what?
Does anyone honestly think there will be an affordable Electric truck that can pull 10 to 15 thousand pound for 250 or more miles on a single charge?
Will we have to outfit our trailers with batteries to provide a boost for the truck doing the pulling? Or will the average middle class joe have to go back to tent camping?
Will there be aux battery packs that we can drop into the truck bed and tie down and plug in for extra mileage, and then take back out so we are not toting around the unnecessary weight when not towing

What's your thoughts on the future changes coming?

[time2roll]

Cptnvideo wrote:
"I think we have more issues if all the electricity is gone. Last time the power went out near me Safeway and Shell were closed."

Good point, goducks. So by going 100% EV, we are kind of putting all our eggs in one basket. Makes me glad I can live off grid.

Distributed electric such as your off grid home does have an advantage over the massive interconnected oil supply and electric grid. The large utility scale systems can more easily be disrupted. Solar on every home and business not so much.

[Michelle_S]

Without getting political the good old Pres said the Military would be all electric by 2035, I believe that was the date. No mention how they were going to fly Jets or move our Aircraft Carriers.

[Cptnvideo]

"I think we have more issues if all the electricity is gone. Last time the power went out near me Safeway and Shell were closed."

Good point, goducks. So by going 100% EV, we are kind of putting all our eggs in one basket. Makes me glad I can live off grid.

[goducks10]

Michelle.S wrote:
I'm not worried about getting a rocket to the moon. I want to know how the Military is going to protect us with nothing but Electricity??? Really, really long extension cords?? You do know that just one High Altitude Nuke will release an EMP that will disable just about all thing Electric/ Electronic.

Where the heck does it say anywhere that the military is going EV?
My goodness. I use Oregon as an example. ICE cars are still allowed in the state past 2035. You can buy one from another state and bring it to Oregon. You can buy used ICE cars. ICE vehicles will be around for many years to come.

I think we have more issues if all the electricity is gone. Last time the power went out near me Safeway and Shell were closed.

[Michelle_S]

I'm not worried about getting a rocket to the moon. I want to know how the Military is going to protect us with nothing but Electricity??? Really, really long extension cords?? You do know that just one High Altitude Nuke will release an EMP that will disable just about all thing Electric/ Electronic.

[fj12ryder]

It can't get to the moon, there's no air for the rocket exhaust to push against.

[goducks10]

Cptnvideo wrote:
So the current administration wants to do away with fossil fuels.
I guess that means the end of portable generators as we now know them.
What about bulldozers? And when they are working where there is no electricity (assuming they are battery powered), how will they be charged?
And what about airplanes?
And how are we going to make enough electricity to power all the battery chargers if we can't use fossil fuels?

I wanna know how they're going to get a rocket to the moon.

[Cptnvideo]

So the current administration wants to do away with fossil fuels.
I guess that means the end of portable generators as we now know them.
What about bulldozers? And when they are working where there is no electricity (assuming they are battery powered), how will they be charged?
And what about airplanes?
And how are we going to make enough electricity to power all the battery chargers if we can't use fossil fuels?

[enblethen]

I believe the Woodinville operation is one of the ones moving to Moses Lake. The other one is coming out of Portland.

[Thermoguy]

enblethen wrote:
There is going to be many changes in the EV vehicles. Changes in the motors and in the batteries between now and if and when ICE engines become obsolete.
There are plans to build battery facilities locally. Talk is that one will be using silicone-based units.

They are already manufacturing silicone based batteries in Woodinville WA...

[Bumpyroad]

there's an interesting article in the Jan/Feb issue of meckleneburg electric cooperative living magazine concerning electric vehicles.
they state that new class 8 electric trucks sell for around 300,000 twice the price of the fuel powered counterparts.
bumpy

[Reisender]

Yah. They’ll be different chemistries of lithiums as well. Both Ford and Rovian will be offering a non cobalt LFP battery to their line up this year. BYD and Tesla are the worlds biggest EV manufacturers and both now produce over half of their vehicles with zero cobalt. Unclear what the Cybertruck will use for a battery yet although most seem to think it’s the new 4680 cell. Time will tell.

[enblethen]

There is going to be many changes in the EV vehicles. Changes in the motors and in the batteries between now and if and when ICE engines become obsolete.
There are plans to build battery facilities locally. Talk is that one will be using silicone-based units.

[Reisender]

Jeffery2k wrote:
All 2023 models will have preconditioned batteries. No model from 2022 has battery preconditioning. The hearing system in the 2022 model Battery is different. Different from battery precondition.

Battery preconditions via software or hardware were not made explicit by Hyundai. In my opinion, the battery preconditioning feature for 2023 will be a hardware update, while the battery preconditioning for the 2022 model may be a software feature. Although it might not be as effective as the 2023 model, it might still be an improvement.

Yah. I think Rivian took the same approach and will add some sort of hardware heating device in 2023.

Tesla does both methods all there approach has changed over the years as well.

[Jeffery2k]

All 2023 models will have preconditioned batteries. No model from 2022 has battery preconditioning. The hearing system in the 2022 model Battery is different. Different from battery precondition. I read this here.

Battery preconditions via software or hardware were not made explicit by Hyundai. In my opinion, the battery preconditioning feature for 2023 will be a hardware update, while the battery preconditioning for the 2022 model may be a software feature. Although it might not be as effective as the 2023 model, it might still be an improvement.