Apr-12-2020 11:14 AM
May-14-2020 08:50 AM
May-14-2020 08:47 AM
Cummins12V98 wrote:cummins2014 wrote:Cummins12V98 wrote:
So PLEASE tell us why you did not have the tire analyzed to determine cause??? Simple to do, just have the Sailun Dealer turn into their division that does this and make the determination. Same exact process with GY, if not road hazard GY will replace the tire.
As mentioned YOU have no idea if it were road hazard or the tires fault. I sure would want my tire replaced and would go thru the process at ZERO cost.
Why didn't I ? I really didn't care. How many Sailuns failures have you read ,heard about, rumors, whatever from a faulty tire, I know my answer , none. If that tire would have been a Goodyear, yes I would have pursued it, with their cost of replacement ,and reputation you bet I would have went after Goodyear, as many have had to do. .
Well as I see it this incident can be chalked up to a Sailun Tire failure!!! MOST road hazard failures are the back tire!
May-14-2020 08:15 AM
May-14-2020 08:09 AM
cummins2014 wrote:Cummins12V98 wrote:
So PLEASE tell us why you did not have the tire analyzed to determine cause??? Simple to do, just have the Sailun Dealer turn into their division that does this and make the determination. Same exact process with GY, if not road hazard GY will replace the tire.
As mentioned YOU have no idea if it were road hazard or the tires fault. I sure would want my tire replaced and would go thru the process at ZERO cost.
Why didn't I ? I really didn't care. How many Sailuns failures have you read ,heard about, rumors, whatever from a faulty tire, I know my answer , none. If that tire would have been a Goodyear, yes I would have pursued it, with their cost of replacement ,and reputation you bet I would have went after Goodyear, as many have had to do. .
May-14-2020 07:49 AM
CapriRacer wrote:cummins2014 wrote:CapriRacer wrote:cummins2014 wrote:
No written, just a lengthy conversation with a Sailun rep. sure its a guess .But when a tire blows ,there is no mistake what happened , its loud ,and obvious. ……
First, the only thing you can tell when a tire blows out is that it lost air. One can NOT tell from just that bit of information whether it was a road hazard or a structural failure.
Second, "tire reps" is not distinct enough to tell if the guy has any expertise or not. Very few people have the knowledge and experience to diagnose a tire failure - not sales guys, not phone consultants.
So what is your point, are you saying I don't know if it was a blow out or not. I never said the tire rep said anything about the cause of why I lost the tire. I pretty much came to my own conclusion, and I repeat its a guess. Tire stayed together, no idea how far it went without air, I don't think it was that far. I was traveling at 65 mph. I look frequently in my mirrors, but IMO it was not a sudden loss of air, but as said its just guessing. If it was a sudden blowout it was a quiet one. If it was a defect tire it took two years to raise its ugly head .
I'm getting lots of contradiction. First you say a blow out is loud and obnoxious, then you said you didn't know how long it had no air.
And if you came to your own conclusion, what was it?
Are you saying a loud obnoxious blow out has a specific cause? If so, what do you think that is?
May-14-2020 06:26 AM
cummins2014 wrote:CapriRacer wrote:cummins2014 wrote:
No written, just a lengthy conversation with a Sailun rep. sure its a guess .But when a tire blows ,there is no mistake what happened , its loud ,and obvious. ……
First, the only thing you can tell when a tire blows out is that it lost air. One can NOT tell from just that bit of information whether it was a road hazard or a structural failure.
Second, "tire reps" is not distinct enough to tell if the guy has any expertise or not. Very few people have the knowledge and experience to diagnose a tire failure - not sales guys, not phone consultants.
So what is your point, are you saying I don't know if it was a blow out or not. I never said the tire rep said anything about the cause of why I lost the tire. I pretty much came to my own conclusion, and I repeat its a guess. Tire stayed together, no idea how far it went without air, I don't think it was that far. I was traveling at 65 mph. I look frequently in my mirrors, but IMO it was not a sudden loss of air, but as said its just guessing. If it was a sudden blowout it was a quiet one. If it was a defect tire it took two years to raise its ugly head .
May-13-2020 02:44 PM
Cummins12V98 wrote:
"No doubt, but the Goodyear Endurance E rated at 4080 for one of the 16". Thats really overcooked."
Please explain! Please backup your claims with documentation showing a single GY ENDURANCE tire has failed in the 3+ years on the market.
Specifically the "E" tire rated at 4,080# on a 16" wheel.
May-13-2020 02:33 PM
Cummins12V98 wrote:
So PLEASE tell us why you did not have the tire analyzed to determine cause??? Simple to do, just have the Sailun Dealer turn into their division that does this and make the determination. Same exact process with GY, if not road hazard GY will replace the tire.
As mentioned YOU have no idea if it were road hazard or the tires fault. I sure would want my tire replaced and would go thru the process at ZERO cost.
May-13-2020 12:27 PM
May-13-2020 12:22 PM
May-13-2020 06:16 AM
CapriRacer wrote:cummins2014 wrote:
No written, just a lengthy conversation with a Sailun rep. sure its a guess .But when a tire blows ,there is no mistake what happened , its loud ,and obvious. ……
First, the only thing you can tell when a tire blows out is that it lost air. One can NOT tell from just that bit of information whether it was a road hazard or a structural failure.
Second, "tire reps" is not distinct enough to tell if the guy has any expertise or not. Very few people have the knowledge and experience to diagnose a tire failure - not sales guys, not phone consultants.
May-13-2020 05:24 AM
cummins2014 wrote:
No written, just a lengthy conversation with a Sailun rep. sure its a guess .But when a tire blows ,there is no mistake what happened , its loud ,and obvious. ……
May-12-2020 09:25 AM
laknox wrote:cummins2014 wrote:Cummins12V98 wrote:
Mods I will let you decide. Simply look at my original post above asking an individual a question.
I did get a PM that I will NOT share on my question, don't blame the guy for not wanting to be involved in this.
Ron, my point was most on here are very knowledgeable ,especially about tire failures , brand quality etc. We have read over the years about tire failures, and Goodyear has been in that mix. If Goodyear has improved ,that is great. Some of the threads I have read say they are still having issues. Tire experts are great, but real world experience is what really counts.
As far as the Endurance, no way on the heavier fifth wheels, they are E rated, and IMO overrated as far as weight rating goes.
ALL ST tires are overrated, IMO. Just sayin'...
Lyle
May-12-2020 09:10 AM
cummins2014 wrote:Cummins12V98 wrote:
Mods I will let you decide. Simply look at my original post above asking an individual a question.
I did get a PM that I will NOT share on my question, don't blame the guy for not wanting to be involved in this.
Ron, my point was most on here are very knowledgeable ,especially about tire failures , brand quality etc. We have read over the years about tire failures, and Goodyear has been in that mix. If Goodyear has improved ,that is great. Some of the threads I have read say they are still having issues. Tire experts are great, but real world experience is what really counts.
As far as the Endurance, no way on the heavier fifth wheels, they are E rated, and IMO overrated as far as weight rating goes.