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Truck for my 5th Wheel

fishuntr
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I'm going to buy a truck to pull my 5th wheel with. It will replace an older Chevy C20 that did a good job. The trailer is a Nomad 24 ft. that has a dry weight of 6500#. I would like to buy a Toyota Tundra or Nissan Titan with v-8 engine and tow package. Would this work satisfactorily? Thanks.
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rhagfo
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Explorer III
SH wrote:
rhagfo wrote:
SH wrote:
Allworth wrote:
Only if he never wants a bigger trailer.

If I were spending the base money for a new truck, I would find enough for an F-250/2500 (then if you can do it; Diesel).

Up until recently, the Tundra and Titan were not even rated for fifth wheel use. All because of the payload problem.

(Don't forget the dog!)


I agree with this post! Never heard anyone complain about having "too much truck" for their coach!


No, but many complain about ride and fuel mileage of a larger truck!

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I don't disagree but I can tell you that my 2500 Duramax gets a whole lot better mileage than my Ford 150 gasser did!


X2 to that, I went from a F250 460 ci, to my Ram, I doubled my mileage!!! that is city, on the open road empty, almost triple the mileage 20 mpg to 7 mpg!!!
Russ & Paula the Beagle Belle.
2016 Ram Laramie 3500 Aisin DRW 4X4 Long bed.
2005 Copper Canyon 293 FWSLS, 32' GVWR 12,360#

"Visit and Enjoy Oregon State Parks"

SH
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Explorer
rhagfo wrote:
SH wrote:
Allworth wrote:
Only if he never wants a bigger trailer.

If I were spending the base money for a new truck, I would find enough for an F-250/2500 (then if you can do it; Diesel).

Up until recently, the Tundra and Titan were not even rated for fifth wheel use. All because of the payload problem.

(Don't forget the dog!)


I agree with this post! Never heard anyone complain about having "too much truck" for their coach!


No, but many complain about ride and fuel mileage of a larger truck!

.


I don't disagree but I can tell you that my 2500 Duramax gets a whole lot better mileage than my Ford 150 gasser did!
2001 Alpenlite 35RK
2007.5 Chev LMM Duramax/Allison
BD Variable Vane Turbo Brake
TST 507
2010 FLHTC Electra Glide Classic Red Hot Sunglo ๐Ÿ™‚

rhagfo
Explorer III
Explorer III
SH wrote:
Allworth wrote:
Only if he never wants a bigger trailer.

If I were spending the base money for a new truck, I would find enough for an F-250/2500 (then if you can do it; Diesel).

Up until recently, the Tundra and Titan were not even rated for fifth wheel use. All because of the payload problem.

(Don't forget the dog!)


I agree with this post! Never heard anyone complain about having "too much truck" for their coach!


No, but many complain about ride and fuel mileage of a larger truck!

The F150 Max/Max, with do great towing that 5er, if they like the size and stay about the same no issues.
OP didn't state plans for the future if the 5er, so gave a great option for the present.

If the OP has plans to go bigger in the future, time to look at a 350/3500 SRW, or DRW and be ready.
Russ & Paula the Beagle Belle.
2016 Ram Laramie 3500 Aisin DRW 4X4 Long bed.
2005 Copper Canyon 293 FWSLS, 32' GVWR 12,360#

"Visit and Enjoy Oregon State Parks"

SH
Explorer
Explorer
Allworth wrote:
Only if he never wants a bigger trailer.

If I were spending the base money for a new truck, I would find enough for an F-250/2500 (then if you can do it; Diesel).

Up until recently, the Tundra and Titan were not even rated for fifth wheel use. All because of the payload problem.

(Don't forget the dog!)


I agree with this post! Never heard anyone complain about having "too much truck" for their coach!
2001 Alpenlite 35RK
2007.5 Chev LMM Duramax/Allison
BD Variable Vane Turbo Brake
TST 507
2010 FLHTC Electra Glide Classic Red Hot Sunglo ๐Ÿ™‚

Shadow_Grey
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Explorer
rhagfo wrote:
Get yourself a F150 EB Max/Max and you will be fine.


F150 EB Tow Max HD...2100 to 2500# Payload
'11 F150 XLT Red Candy Met. Ecoboost 4X4 Screw 5.5', Max Tow,Reese R16k 5th wheel hitch,Ride-Rite Air Springs, E Rated Tires, Extang Cover
'13 Keystone Cougar X-Lite 29RES,triple slides,Mor/Ryde suspension, Reese 5th Airborne Sidewinder, 16" E rated tires

MinnCamper
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Explorer
Yes.

Allworth
Explorer II
Explorer II
Only if he never wants a bigger trailer.

If I were spending the base money for a new truck, I would find enough for an F-250/2500 (then if you can do it; Diesel).

Up until recently, the Tundra and Titan were not even rated for fifth wheel use. All because of the payload problem.

(Don't forget the dog!)
Formerly posting as "littleblackdog"
Martha, Allen, & Blackjack
2006 Chevy 3500 D/A LB SRW, RVND 7710
Previously: 2008 Titanium 30E35SA. Currently no trailer due to age & mobility problems. Very sad!
"Real Jeeps have round headlights"

rhagfo
Explorer III
Explorer III
Get yourself a F150 EB Max/Max and you will be fine.
Russ & Paula the Beagle Belle.
2016 Ram Laramie 3500 Aisin DRW 4X4 Long bed.
2005 Copper Canyon 293 FWSLS, 32' GVWR 12,360#

"Visit and Enjoy Oregon State Parks"

TucsonJim
Explorer II
Explorer II
The maximum payload for a 2015 Tundra is 2080 pounds for a 2 door standard cab. The maximum for a double cab is 1680#. These are for the 2x4 models. It is significantly less for the 4x4 model.

Estimating 1500 pounds of cargo in the FW, your pin weight would be approximately 1,600 pounds (20%).

Now, add the pin weight of 1600, hitch - 150, Driver and passengers - 350. You get 2100#. This does not include any extra cargo you store in the truck. You exceed the cargo capacity of even the highest rated truck.

Some people will say, "The Toyota specs say it can pull 10,500 pounds". Yes, it will pull that much, but you are still exceeding the payload capacity of the truck.

So please, do your research and get a truck that will give you about 2500 pounds of payload so you have a little room to spare.
2016 Ford F350 Turbo Diesel SRW 4x4
2017 Grand Design Reflection 297RSTS
2013 Ford F350 Turbo Diesel SRW 4x4 (Destroyed by fire - 8/29/16)
2014 Grand Design Reflection 337RLS (Destroyed by fire - 8/29/16)

johnrbd
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Explorer
If you are over your ratings and still decide to "go for it", let us know your travel plans show we can plan accordingly.

You may think you will be fine because it tows it, but when you have to a "situation" you will wish you had enough truck to handle the trailer. It's not just your safety, but the rest of us out there trying to enjoy our leisure time.

Speed limit for "ST" tire is 65 mph!

tvman44
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Explorer
Only if you don't mind grossly exceeding the ratings of the truck. ๐Ÿ˜ž
Papa Bob
1* 2008 Brookside by Sunnybrook 32'
1* 2002 F250 Super Duty 7.3L PSD
Husky 16K hitch, Tekonsha P3,
Firestone Ride Rite Air Springs, Trailair Equa-Flex, Champion C46540
"A bad day camping is better than a good day at work!"

camp-n-family
Explorer
Explorer
Either could "pull" it but you will be over GVWR. Payload will be your limiting factor. A 6500lbs dry fiver will weigh 8k+ loaded. Average 20% minimum of that on the pin would be 1600lbs. Figure in another 150lbs for the weight of the hitch and you've exceeded the payload available for either of those trucks before even adding passengers. Only the regular cab long box model may have enough payload.

People do it all the time, and it will likely handle it ok, but you will exceed ratings. Only way to know for sure is to load up the fiver and get it weighed, including the pin weight. Load the truck up and weigh it too to see how much payload you have remaining. If pin is less than payload remaining you're good to go (assuming you're under axle ratings too)
'17 Ram 2500 Crewcab Laramie CTD
'13 Keystone Bullet Premier 310BHPR
Hitched by Hensley

therink
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Explorer
With 6500 dry weight, I would not tow with anything less than a 3/4 ton (on tongue weight alone).
Steve Rinker
Rochester, NY
2013 Keystone Sydney 340FBH 5th Wheel, 12,280 lbs loaded (scale)
2015.5 GMC Sierra Denali 3500, SRW, Duramax, CC, Payload 3,700 (sticker- not scaled yet)

Take my posts for what they are, opinions based on my own experiences.