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What size are the g rated tires on toy haulers

rtaylor0830
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Explorer
Does anyone know what are the sizes of the 16 inch g rated tires on most toy haulers now
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JIMNLIN
Explorer
Explorer
Kinda what tireman9 says in his rv tire safety blog where he talks with a TRA engineer about the need for ST tires to have their capacity reduced up to 25%.
Tireman9 says;

**Finally chased down the answer. Getting to the bottom was a challenge because I ran into "customer service" people who could read from a script but had no idea why they were giving me the answer they were.

Even got to an engineer at Tire & Rim Association and based on his answers it was obvious TRA had not thought about ST type tires or the unique nature of most RV trailer applications for many years so I believe he acted a little surprised when I identified the engineering analysis that indicated that the current loads too high for many trailers and that the load capacity should be decreased by 15% to 25% or more if the failure rate was to be decreased to a more tolerable rate rather than the 5 or 10% or higher some are reporting. This is not his or TRA fault as I understand it is the responsibility of tire company representatives to TRA to present and review technical matters.**

You might drop over on Tireman9 and ask him your questions.
"good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment" ............ Will Rogers

'03 2500 QC Dodge/Cummins HO 3.73 6 speed manual Jacobs Westach
'97 Park Avanue 28' 5er 11200 two slides

Lantley
Nomad
Nomad
taken wrote:
I think your speculation is completely correct but can't offer any collaboration other than reading it a million times added to the fact that it just makes sense. It really doesn't matter to me but I'm sure the proof is out there if someone wanted to look hard enough.

You're right maybe I'm just the lazy one. My cursory search didn't turn up anything.
19'Duramax w/hips, 2022 Alliance Paradigm 390MP >BD3,r,22" Blackstone
r,RV760 w/BC20,Glow Steps, Enduraplas25,Pedego
BakFlip,RVLock,Prog.50A surge ,Hughes autoformer
Porta Bote 8.0 Nissan, Sailun S637

taken
Explorer II
Explorer II
I think your speculation is completely correct but can't offer any collaboration other than reading it a million times added to the fact that it just makes sense. It really doesn't matter to me but I'm sure the proof is out there if someone wanted to look hard enough.
Regards, Rodney
TV - 2017 F350 SRW CC SB 4X4 6.7
TH - 2015 FR XLR 395AMP

Lantley
Nomad
Nomad
taken wrote:
There's an answer that you already speculated Lantely and discussion of it causes threads to be locked...


Taken I took an educated guess,but I was hoping to do better than my speculation. I was hoping that someone with more official knowledge could confirm or refute my speculation.
Have the ST vs. LT criteria become some sort of secret that can't be discussed?
Has it become a taboo discussion for fear of locking the thread.
Funny there is already one pre-locked thread out there already.

More importantly what if my speculation is wrong? I hate to spread misinformation. There plenty of fake news already without adding the ST vs.LT ratings to the fray.
It's a simple question, why is the ST load rating higher than the LT load rating assuming we are referring to the exact same tire and it is only a ST.vs. LT ratings change due to taxes and tariffs?
Anyone else care to speculate.
19'Duramax w/hips, 2022 Alliance Paradigm 390MP >BD3,r,22" Blackstone
r,RV760 w/BC20,Glow Steps, Enduraplas25,Pedego
BakFlip,RVLock,Prog.50A surge ,Hughes autoformer
Porta Bote 8.0 Nissan, Sailun S637

taken
Explorer II
Explorer II
There's an answer that you already speculated Lantely and discussion of it causes threads to be locked...
Regards, Rodney
TV - 2017 F350 SRW CC SB 4X4 6.7
TH - 2015 FR XLR 395AMP

Lantley
Nomad
Nomad
fj12ryder wrote:
taken wrote:
The Sailun's were actually LT rated until a couple years ago. LT tires have a higher import tax than ST so Sailun kept the tires the same but changed the designation to ST.
I bought the Sailun when they were designated as LT tires, and their weight rating was 3750 lbs.

Yes I have LT rated stamped tires as well. I have been told they are the exact same tire as the ST version which I don't dispute.
However now the load rating has increased to 4000+#on the ST stamped tires. How or why did the rating change if it is the same tire?
19'Duramax w/hips, 2022 Alliance Paradigm 390MP >BD3,r,22" Blackstone
r,RV760 w/BC20,Glow Steps, Enduraplas25,Pedego
BakFlip,RVLock,Prog.50A surge ,Hughes autoformer
Porta Bote 8.0 Nissan, Sailun S637

fj12ryder
Explorer III
Explorer III
taken wrote:
The Sailun's were actually LT rated until a couple years ago. LT tires have a higher import tax than ST so Sailun kept the tires the same but changed the designation to ST.
I bought the Sailun when they were designated as LT tires, and their weight rating was 3750 lbs.
Howard and Peggy

"Don't Panic"

taken
Explorer II
Explorer II
The Sailun's were actually LT rated until a couple years ago. LT tires have a higher import tax than ST so Sailun kept the tires the same but changed the designation to ST.
Regards, Rodney
TV - 2017 F350 SRW CC SB 4X4 6.7
TH - 2015 FR XLR 395AMP

Lantley
Nomad
Nomad
JIMNLIN wrote:
Sailun S637 ST235/80-16 G..4080 lbs
Sailun S637 ST235/85-16 G..4080 lbs

Goodyear G614 LT235/85-16 G ..3750 lbs..110 psi

Provider ST235/85-16 G..4080 lbs..110 psi

Gladiator QR-35 ST235/85-16 G ..4080 lbs..110 psi

Hercules H-901 LT235/85-16 G..3750 lb..110 psi

I have no idea what tires most TH on a rv website use but G Tires above seem the most popular with operators on haulers forums.


Sort of unrelated but I'll use the above post for reference.
Do LT (passenger rated tires) require more margin in their load ratings and consequently aren't rated as high as the ST tire.?
Can anyone verify this?
Note the ST's are rated to carry more than the LT's listed above.
19'Duramax w/hips, 2022 Alliance Paradigm 390MP >BD3,r,22" Blackstone
r,RV760 w/BC20,Glow Steps, Enduraplas25,Pedego
BakFlip,RVLock,Prog.50A surge ,Hughes autoformer
Porta Bote 8.0 Nissan, Sailun S637

JIMNLIN
Explorer
Explorer
Sailun S637 ST235/80-16 G..4080 lbs
Sailun S637 ST235/85-16 G..4080 lbs

Goodyear G614 LT235/85-16 G ..3750 lbs..110 psi

Provider ST235/85-16 G..4080 lbs..110 psi

Gladiator QR-35 ST235/85-16 G ..4080 lbs..110 psi

Hercules H-901 LT235/85-16 G..3750 lb..110 psi

I have no idea what tires most TH on a rv website use but G Tires above seem the most popular with operators on haulers forums.
"good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment" ............ Will Rogers

'03 2500 QC Dodge/Cummins HO 3.73 6 speed manual Jacobs Westach
'97 Park Avanue 28' 5er 11200 two slides

Dannyabear1
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Explorer
#1 Goodyear G614
#2 Sailun S637
#3 anything else

Old-Biscuit
Explorer III
Explorer III
fj12ryder wrote:
Not having done any surveys I would have to hazard a guess and opine that they are using 235-85x16. But I've not done any in depth research.



Survey says........

YEP.
Is it time for your medication or mine?


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bighog01
Explorer
Explorer
235/85/16 G rated Sailuns on my TH.

fj12ryder
Explorer III
Explorer III
Not having done any surveys I would have to hazard a guess and opine that they are using 235-85x16. But I've not done any in depth research.
Howard and Peggy

"Don't Panic"