Whats Your Real Weights? Truck and Trailer. The Real Deal

[juzplanekrazy]

I don’t know if it’s been done before or not but I was thinking about keeping a running list of real truck weights by year and type, and trailer weights by brand, size and what the total combined weight is of each guys rig. I was hoping the info would be a help for guys wondering about what the real weights are for a certain type of truck and to keep track of the more popular brand 5th wheel trailers. Another thing that will come out of it will be to see just how many guys really know what they are towing and if they know what their weight capacities are.
I’m sure it will take some time to compile a list and it will grow as guys add there info but I’m hoping it will help the newer guys in the long run to be directed back over to this thread in the future.
I’ll keep the TV lists to mainly the big 3 and from ¾ ton and up and I’ll try to keep the 5ers in a group by real GVW, length, and then manufacture. Any ideas are welcome as long as it makes things easier. And only real information can be given, so no guessing allowed. Only guys that have scaled there rigs or are totally certain of the weights.
Let’s see if I can keep the format real simple to type down and that will make it simpler for guys to refer back to and to keep track of.
Here we go……

TV - 2006 Dodge Mega Cab 3500 4x4, real scaled weight with full fuel, hitch, DH-DW and misc. gear = 7,500lbs. TV GVWR is 10,200lbs
5ver – KZ New Vision TH 38ft 14,500lbs loaded GVW. GVWR is 18,000lbs
Normal running TV & TH GCW weight= 22,500lbs, TV GCWR is 23,000lbs
Real Wet Pin Weight=2,950lbs

[The_Roberson_s]

I was reading all this on "real weights? Truck and trailer". I have been pulling 5ers for a very long time, and this topic had me go and weight my truck and trailer on the CAT scales before our last camping excursion and this is what I found. My truck is a 2008 RC 3/4 Silverado with a 6.0 and a 3.73 rear end. My trucks FT Max axle weight is 4200 lbs. and the RR Max are 6084 with a Max GVWR of 9200 lbs & a GCWR of 16,000 lbs. I pull a 2011 MK2900 Sundance thats dry weight is 9200 lbs.

I went to the scales and here are the results with me in the cab and everything loaded in the 5er to last 2 weeks with 47 gals of water, 1 half full and 1 full 30 lb tanks of LP.

STEER AXLE 3700 LBS
DRIVE AXLE 5220 LBS
TRLR AXLE 8260 LBS
GROSS WEIGHT 17180 LBS

That means that I am over 1180 lbs on my GCWR for my truck. All the other numbers were good. It pulls like a dream and is real stable. My truck is not under an warranty any more. Just curious if you think I am going to damage something pulling a little over 1K more than recommended?

Thanks!

I re-posted this as a question and not for infomation. Sorry!

[lakebum]

[lakebum]

[tnd2]

TV - 2004 Dodge Quad Cab 3500 4x4 DRW Cummins, real scaled weight with full fuel, no-hitch, no passengers and misc. gear = 7,620lbs. TV GVWR is 12,280lbs
5ver – Dutchman Voltage V3905 43ft 16,720lbs scaled weight(inc 50gals gas, dry tanks, typical gear for 3 day family of 4 w/bicycles) GVWR is 19,000lbs
TV & TH GCW weight= 24,340lbs, TV GCWR is 17,000lbs
Real Wet Pin Weight= 3,900lbs actual includes hitch weight

[sirdrakejr]

I compared the numbers for that trailer for my 3/4T Dodge and the weights came out right. The pin weight is usually the trouble spot for 3/4T trucks and that trailer has a weight that the truck should have no problem with. Weigh the truck and see how much "room" you have for the pin weight. I think the 3/4T Chev should be able to carry up to 1900# and still be UNDER the GVWR. The 3:73 rearend is a good choice for towing too.
Frank

[DW-gray]

bill.ritchie wrote:
We are thinking about upgrading from a smaller travel trailer to a 5th wheel. Our TV is a 2009 Chevy Silverado 2500HD crew cab 4x4 standard box Duramax Diesel 6.6L 3.73 axle ratio. The GVWR is 9200 lbs, front GAWR 4860 lbs, rear GAWR 6084 lbs, GCWR 16,000 lbs.

We are considering getting an Arctic Fox 27-5L 5th wheel. Dry axle weight 7500 lbs, dry hitch weight 1500 lbs, gross dry weight 9000 lbs

I would like to get an experienced 5th wheel owner's opinion on this setup and the capability of our truck to pull that sized trailer. The 5th wheel is heavier than our current TT and I trust the opinions here over the dealership's. Thanks.

Bill, let me know if the article at the following link helped you answer your question.

Before You Buy

[REWahoo]

bill,

I agree with Frank - the trailer should be a good match for your truck.

[sirdrakejr]

The trailer should be ideal for the 3/4T Duramax. I love the slide out closet it has since I had the same thing in my DP MH. That trailer is one of my favorites due to that closet.
Have fun!
Frank

[bill_ritchie]

We are thinking about upgrading from a smaller travel trailer to a 5th wheel. Our TV is a 2009 Chevy Silverado 2500HD crew cab 4x4 standard box Duramax Diesel 6.6L 3.73 axle ratio. The GVWR is 9200 lbs, front GAWR 4860 lbs, rear GAWR 6084 lbs, GCWR 16,000 lbs.

We are considering getting an Arctic Fox 27-5L 5th wheel. Dry axle weight 7500 lbs, dry hitch weight 1500 lbs, gross dry weight 9000 lbs

I would like to get an experienced 5th wheel owner's opinion on this setup and the capability of our truck to pull that sized trailer. The 5th wheel is heavier than our current TT and I trust the opinions here over the dealership's. Thanks.

[californiatrave]

Wedge542- Besides being seriously over weight for any "pickup truck", would guess that you do not have a side tilt type of hitch. That would be the reason for the front wheel lifting. There must have been some serious twisting of the truck frame !! Aside tilt hitch is a very good item for towing ! Good travels, enjoy the great USA !

[californiatrave]

wedge542 wrote:
I bought a 39ft newmar mountain air triple slides, 8 tires, cabinet sticker says 18350 loaded, i had to pull it home with my f250 because of the elec brakes connection. I was useing a reg 5th wheel in the bed, had to stop at a stop sign turn hard right and up a steep incline at same time, as the truck went up the incline the trailer was still level but i give too much fuel because of oncomeing trafic, the right front tire on the truck was off the ground untill the trailer started up the incline as well, then it set down hard and fast, this was with a 5th wheel that allows no rocking movement on the sides, anyway i have not took to scales yet but from what im seeing on here about these weights and a f250 im gonna have to do it another way looks like. Truck has plenty power,brakes very good with elec brakes helping but that front wheel off the ground was a shocker,,i cant believe a pickup could do that but guess the situation was just right, taking to scales soon to know more.

[californiatrave]

I have a 1992 F250HD, extra cab, auto, 460, 8ft. bed, 4:10 limited slip, Transfer flow 40 gal. front tank,Doug Thorley headers, Msd6, Banks electronic trans modifier, aux. trans cooler,(some other items also) towing a 1995 Alpenlite RK27, GVWR 12500. Hitch pin weight 2000lb. My Black Cat scale GCWR weight is 17200, full propane, (2-7 gal), 10 gal hot water,25 gal fresh water, empty waste tanks, 1kw gen, firewood, leveling boards, and the usual "stuff " we all manage to haul around for our 2-6 month trips ! O- yes, 3 solar panels, Prosine 2.0, 15k btu AC, and my little bird !, (and Wife !)... Have about 65-70k on the RV now, 140k the truck, Mitchelins on the truck, and Goodyear G159 LT235/85R16E Unisteel on the trailer.

[NewVisionUltra]

I have a 2006 Dodge Ram 3500 dually SLT Longhorn, QC,LB w/5.9 Cummins and auto trans, pulling a 2005 HitchHiker Champaign 35LK. When we were full timing until late 2006 the Cat scale totaled 25860# That was with my stock tank full and the aux.tank ( 100 gal.) also full. Truck is stock with a Jake Brake added. The trailer has Mor-Ryde IS suspension with disc brakes. I average overall 12.6 - 13.2 MPG. As you all know that is subject to change with hills and/or wind.

[Tireman9]

Round Topper wrote:
Finally made it across the scale yesterday:

2003 F350 CC DRW 6.0 - 8650 with full fuel and people and dogs.

2003 Jayco 3710RLTS - 14600 in normal highway configuration - 1/3 tank fresh water and holding tanks empty. This happens to be 100 pounds over grossweight on data plate.

So knowing you are overweight without filling your water tank, what is your next step?
I trust you realize that you will be guessing on how much overloaded individual components such as axle, springs or tires are overloaded as the data from actual weights for each tire has shown the split of loading is not 50/50 between axles and very rairely is 50/50 side to side.
You could be looking at 5% to 12% overload on one tire. If so it isn't a question of If it will fail but when. Even if it was made in USA and you ahve never exceeded the max speed limit of 65 mph on ST type tires and you always have set your inflation to at least the placard inflation when the tires are cold.

[Wolley]

99F250 LB CC 4WD 7720lbs 6speed manual
Cougar High Country 296BHS 9180lbs (stickered at 7500 :E) No more than 800lbs of gear and water.
Steering axle 4720
Rear Axle weight 4960 (unloaded 3140)
Trailer axles 7220
Pin weight 1820
Gross 16900

We're legal now. About 2200lbs over with the National Sea Breeze we had before this one.