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The worst part of getting ready to fulltime is...

Fiesta
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Getting rid of all the junk accumulated for the last 40 years.
Siblings got way too much now.
Grown kid's houses are full.
Garage cans fill up way too fast.
GoodWill won't take any more.
Salvation Army won't come out anymore.
So many Craigslist ads can't keep up with them all.
Countless no shows and wasted time waiting.
Some stuff nobody will take.
But if it's free they're here now...
Then we gotta sell the house... THE Real PITA.
But this summer we'll be free!
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echolim88
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ITGuy...very moved by your story. While I was laid off several times when the IT bubble burst, I never had to go through what you did, I did re-locate across the country in an attempt to start over and reduce my living costs, but back then I still didn't "get it." Now at 47, I look at all the junk I've accumulated and I feel like I'm drowning.

Since the economy tanked I got a late start on my 401k and savings. I am thinking about going full-time where I work and live now. Selling the s&b so I can actually save money for retirement and then travel with my fiver when I'm finally free.

Thank you all for your informative posts about how to get rid of everything. I have no heirs, so selling it off and donating will be the only way to go. An estate sale sounds perfect. I know letting go will be a process, but it's one I'm actually looking forward to.

Safe travels everyone!

GypsiesAtHeart2
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The worst part of getting ready to fulltime is... the time in between the moment you decide and the moment you are.


We're having our second sale this weekend. I have a 35 yr photo business to liquidate, plus home which needs some fixing. We're researching our new 5ver & TV & trying to decide what will fit. Hope to be out by 1/1/16!
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tjfogelberg
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I'm approaching this gradually - at 50 I put a freeze on acquiring new things. Sure, I'll replace a worn out appliance and the "freeze" doesn't apply to anything RV related. ๐Ÿ˜‰

My stuff took a lot of time to accumulate (at great cost) and I am reluctant to unload it for pennies on the dollar. I think this will get easier as I get older and have less time to live.

Nieces and nephews aren't even in college yet, maybe wait until they start forming households and unload on them?

When I am in the RV for an extended time, I don't even think about the stuff I left behind.

weathermeister
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ITGuy...Very interesting out look. Good for you too for finding, not by choice, what's important in life. I have had the same thoughts about possions, but have a hardtime letting go. In time I'm sure I'll be able to make the transition. That's why I'm starting early. Sort of ease into it as it were. LOL

soos
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ITGuy,
Excellent post.

Sue
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2012 Mobile Suites 36 TKSB4 pulled by a
2011 Ford F450
2005 Lance 1181 TC- our Vacation Home

ITguy
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Just thought I'd throw in a somewhat different perspective on the whole "getting rid of stuff" thing.

Unlike most (but not all) people here, we started full-timing out of necessity, not choice. I have weathered several economic downturns without batting an eye, but when the recent "Great Recession" came, my number was finally up. When my boss told me that he was closing the doors and my next paycheck would be the last (plus, it bounced), I wasn't particularly worried. I thought money would be tight for a month or so, but I'd be back to work in no time.

Nope, didn't work out that way.

For the following 3 years, I was mostly unemployed, but took what work I could get, generally paying 1/4 or less what I used to make.

It finally got to the point where I had to admit that next month's rent wasn't going to be there. Talked to the landlord, let him know the situation, and that we'd be out of the house ASAP so he could start looking for new tenants. Left behind a pretty bad-ass $2500 fridge to compensate for breaking our lease agreement. We parted on good terms.

Rented 2 storage units and squeezed all of our "most important" stuff into them. This was in June, so we drove back to the area that my wife is from, found a little county park with a $5 per night camping rate, and lived in a little, yellow 2 person tent for a few months.

When our tax refund finally showed up, we spent it, and a little extra on a 30 year old, beat up, 20 foot travel trailer. On the nights we cold afford the five dollars, we stayed at that same county park. When we couldn't scrape up 5 bucks, we had a few boondocking spots that we used.

Finally, after 3 years of no work, or low paying work, I landed a real job again. We continued to live in the old, beat-up TT to save money so we could repair the financial damage done during my "3 Years of Hell".

During this time, we had missed some payments on the storage units. I had kept in contact with the owner and sent what I could when I could, and each time I talked to him he assured me that our stuff was safe as long as I was working with him. When I called to let him know that I was ready to pay in full and pick up my stuff, he had no choice but to fess up that he had auctioned it off several months back.

Everything we owned, everything we considered "valuable". Gone. Not a damn thing we could do. And, yeah, my fault, I'm the one that got behind on the bill....

Anyway, on to the point of this long-windedness...

We packed a 3-bedroom house, filled to the brim, worth of "stuff" that we felt was important. Having lost it, I don't miss a single thing. My wife misses about 2 small boxes worth of pictures and papers. As for the rest? We replaced the lost items that we actually wanted to replace with newer/better for about $500 just by keeping an eye on Craigslist. It took me about 20 years worth of paychecks to get that stuff. Added up, I easily spent 6 figures on that stuff. I replaced the stuff I cared about for $500.

The other thing I'd mention is that my new job is a good one, and my paycheck is respectable. A little over a year ago we had bounced back to the point where we could have rented a pretty decent house (still have a little work to do on the credit score before I could get a mortgage at a decent rate, but progress is steady and faster than I expected). Instead of that, we both agreed, without hesitation, to devote those resources to a better RV. Sold the $1200 TT for $400, took out a small loan against my meager 401k, and bought my brother-in-law's motor home off of him for dirt cheap. Seems he lost enthusiasm for camping after my wife's sister decided to divorce his dumb ass and take the kids with her. So we're now in a 34 ft. motorhome, 15 years old, no slides, but it feels more "house like" than any of the houses I have lived in. Honestly, it's more space than we need. (Not that we don't use it all up....)

Losing all my "stuff" sucked at the time, but in hindsight, it set me free. It changed my life. 22 years worth of paychecks, countless thousands of dollars went into acquiring that stuff. And the more stuff I got, the more stuff I had to buy to store it and keep it reasonably organized. Maybe that's a couple hundred bucks for shelving in the garage, but at least twice it was a bigger house, bigger garage, bigger basement. All just to store "stuff" that I honestly rarely used, but wasn't willing to toss.

I have been set free from the American idea that happiness, tranquility, and peace of mind can be purchased at WalMart or Costco. Hell, I used to always think I needed the biggest TV on the market. I'm currently looking to get rid of the one I have in favor of something a bit smaller.

I may have started full-timing out of necessity, but I stick with it by choice. And I'm still working age, I don't even get to move around much. But at the end of the work day I get to go home to a place that most people consider a "vacation spot". I'm surrounded by beauty, and I get to sleep at night in actual dark, no street lights shining through my window.

At 43 years of age, and still shackled to one location by the necessity of work, I only have 2 regrets regarding full-time RVing. The first is that it took me 20 years to figure all this out, and the second is that if I hadn't blown all that money on "stuff" in those 20 years, I might be in a position to travel more....

One of my favorite books is titled "AWOL on the Appalachian Trail". It's basically a diary of a guy who decided to quit his job so that he could fulfill the dream of hiking all 2,000 or so miles of the Appalachian Trail in one go. He was successful. In later editions of the book, there is a section in the afterword where he answers questions that he has gotten. One of them, which I won't take time to look up, had to do with what the most important thing he learned on the trail was. His answer was that he came to realize that possessions are burdens. Just another pound on your back.

I agree. Amazon is full of cool stuff that I would like to play with. But once bought, I wouldn't want to throw/give it away. That results in the endless cycle of "bigger, better, more"... Not just more stuff, but more space, and more expense to store it and/or haul it around.

Yes. Possessions are burdens, not blessings. (With a very few specific and obvious exceptions...)

(And, yeah, I still have the 50 inch TV and satellite service, I'm not going totally overboard with this philosophy... ๐Ÿ™‚ )

reubenray
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We are just in the beginning stage of going fulltime. But we had a push closer to it yesterday after coming home from a 3 week trip. Apparently a bad storm tripped the breakers for our garage where we had a chest freezer and another refrigerator/freezer. I smelt it as soon as I opened the garage. We lost several hundred dollars of meat in them.

It would be great not to have to deal with the loading and unloading of everything when we take a trip. After a 37 night trip in May/June the house will go on the market. I will start putting some stuff on Craigslist to sell ASAP.

Our plan is to to some touch up painting, carpet cleaning and whatever the real estate agent says we need to do. At some point we will have an estate sale to unload as much as possible. The timing for this is still unanswered. We do not have any kids or relatives to give stuff to.
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Curt_and_Marie
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You are all so organized! I am spending every off moment focused on prepping the coach. Its not that its in especially poor condition but we haven't owned it long and it is 15 years old. Its a 99 Fleetwood Flair and I want to go through as many wire looms and frame bolts as I can so I know this vehicle. As far as the house, we gave what we wanted to the kids including our old Suburban and 1974 Silver Streak. Just waiting for the garage sale fairy to visit the house and sort / price the rest of our junk. As of this morning the fairy has not visited,,,, Oh******its 13 April the TAX fairy hasn't been here either. We will launch by 1 July!

weathermeister
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I will be retiring Jan of 2019. We are starting the process of de-cluttering this summer with an eye to sell the house in the summer/fall of 2018. We will likely go into an apartment for few months untill we can leave.

It is a big change of thinking and living.Kind of scary to a point, but exciting at the same time. Time will tell

jhamlin
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Keep the faith, you will get there! The house sale is the key of course, and once that happens things will move faster than you may think. We had to be out 2 weeks after close, and had just enuf time to get the 5th wheel out of a huge snow bank, into the driveway and get it loaded with all our "stuff". We had made the decision not to store anything, so it was VERY difficult to part with some memorabilia, but we just gritted our teeth and did it. We did store old family & friends photos at one of our daughter's place. The kids took alot of our furniture, and we had a local used furniture store come out to offer a price and haul the rest away. My only advice would be to just lighten up as much as you can while you have time to think things thru. Best of luck!

Enjoying Spring weather at Gulf Shores, AL.,
Jim & Jan Hamlin

RVcrazy
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We are in the process of unloading our stuff & the house. The kids have identified what they want (not much). We figure we will Craigs list stuff & have a moving sale. The difficulty is that we want to sell the house furnished (but dejunked). After we get an offer, then we'll unload what we can. We figure we will need to put a few things in storage. I wish we didn't need to, but it's family stuff and hard to part with... After we get an offer on the house, we may only have a couple of days to finish up. I don't know how anyone does it! An estate sale sound interesting, but they probably want all or nothing. We will be living in the house during the transition because the RV is several states away. I am also still stuck working. Wish us luck! The calendar is flying by fast & our efforts don't seem to be accomplishing anything. We are still going through old family photos to digitize & our books & DVDs, to say nothing about all of the recipes I've copied through the years. Ugh!!!

jhamlin
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Just a word of encouragement for all who are gettin' ready for that "big move". You're about to break out of your cocoon and fly like a butterfly! In our case we had the ultimate challenge last month (March), in leaving from our house in Michigan. Ungodly winter up there, and we actually had to chop our way out of the driveway, since the landing gear on our 5th wheel was frozen to the blacktop! Headed straight to Gulf Shores, where we are now. Have no idea if we're over our GVWR, since the weigh scale we tried didn't work! Other than that, we're in the process of reorganizing and adjusting to a new lifestyle which will take time . . . from vacationing to full-timing. Best of luck in all your planning & preparation!

pamvanw
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There must be different policies. The place we used for our test case, takes 20%. You can do as much or as little of the prep as you want. They auction at their facility, so you can either pack up and transport stuff yourself. Or they will do as much or as little packing and transporting as you ask them to for $65/hour for 2 men and a truck. That's on top of the 20%.
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Wkelly5688
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Jfet- we talked to an estate sale company. They come in and pull everything together, price it, sell it and give you 70%. You dont have to touch it. Said they would need access to the house for 2 weeks prior to estate sale date to get everythin grouped and displayed. We are going to let them handle it..

Bill