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jffnkrn
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Does anyone have a link to a suggested rv park along or on the beach in rocky point? thinking about going next year and starting the planning process. thanks in advance, Good Luck & Be Safe ! ! !
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briansue
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I did not "write" any of the regulations - I just do a Copy & Paste of what I find online. I do not "know" what the laws are - only what I read and have heard from others. I have GOOGLED to find the actual law from a Mexican Gov't website but have not found it. Easy to get one online at the website at the bottom of this post.


https://www.bajabound.com/before/permits/visa.php

https://espanol.bajabound.com/before/permits/visa.php

What is the tourist card / tourist permit?

According to the National Immigration Institute, a tourist card (FMM) is an "admission document" issued to vacationers of certain nationalities. US and Canadian citizens who travel to Mexico for vacations can obtain the Tourist Card (FMM) in a few minutes at a Mexican immigration office at the border with a passport or a passport card. The tourist card (FMM) can be issued for up to 180 days and is issued per person including minors.

When do I need a tourist card / tourist permit?

People entering Mexico as tourists need the tourist card (FMM). It is important to note that in Baja, although you can take your vehicle to the end of the peninsula without a vehicle permit (see import regulations for vehicles ), you must have the tourist card (FMM).
Who can get a tourist card / tourist permit?

If you are a US citizen or Canadian citizen traveling to Mexico for tourist reasons, you may only need a tourist permit (FMM). For citizens of other countries it is better to contact the Mexican Consulate for information on documentation requirements. You can see a list of countries that require and do not require an official Visa here

What kind of documentation do I need to obtain a tourist card / tourist permit?

If you are a US citizen or Canadian citizen, you will need to have a valid passport to present to Mexican immigration officials to obtain the tourist card (FMM).


Lots of Govt stuff about FMM at this website.......

https://www.gob.mx/busqueda?utf8=%E2%9C%93&site=inm&q=Forma+Migratoria+M%C3%BAltiple

hypoxia
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briansue wrote:
for stays less than 72 hours in the Free Zone, a tourist visa is not required.

I have not heard of anyone getting the Visa for Rocky Point regardless of the length of stay in the 30 years that I have visited.....
Jim

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briansue
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Zona Libre Internacion de Vehiculos Extranjeros

http://www.sat.gob.mx/aduanas/vehiculos/importacion_temporal/Paginas/solo_sonora.aspx



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briansue
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Found articles online...........


https://www.mexpro.com/blog/mexico-free-border-zone


What is the Mexico Free/Border Zone?
Posted August 1, 2017 by Roxanna Brock McDade & filed under Border Crossing, Driving to Mexico, Free Zone.

The Mexico Free or Border Zone was designated by the Mexican government to make it easier for travelers to enter Mexico and improve tourism along the U.S. border. Vehicles driving in these zones do not need a Temporary Vehicle Importation Permit (TIP). And, for stays less than 72 hours in the Free Zone, a tourist visa is not required.

Additionally, goodsโ€”with the exclusion of alcohol, cigarettes, cigars and race horsesโ€”can be imported into Mexico duty free, as long as within these boundaries. This way resources can be moved easily across the border for manufacturing and assembly plants. And, once produced, the items can be exported outside of Mexico duty free, giving companies incentive to produce in Mexico, and in turn, creating more jobs for Mexicans living there.

The โ€˜Free zoneโ€™ designation is actually short for โ€˜Hassle Free Zone,โ€™ but the area has many other names including: Border Zone, Perimeter Zone, Liberated Zone and the Free Trade Zone.

What are the free zone perimeters?
The Mexico Free zone encompasses areas along Mexicoโ€™s northern border. Yet, the entire Baja peninsula and a large portion of Sonora are included in the free zone. For all other Mexican border states, it is the area between 20 and 26 km (12 to 16 miles) from the border.

The Sonora designation is important, because itโ€™s illegal to cross out of the Free Zone without a Temporary Vehicle Import Permit. The free zone in Sonora lies to the northwest of Mexico Federal Highway Number 2, starting at Agua Prieta. It extends through Cananea, to where it intersects with Mexican Federal Highway 15 in Imuris. From Imuris, all of the areas to the north and west of Mexico Federal Highway 15 are included. Kilometer 98, southeast of Empalme, is where the free zone ends.

Mexico makes it easier for those traveling outside the Free Zone in Sonora by offering the Sonora-only Temporary Importation Permit.

What are the benefits of traveling in the free zone?
The primary benefit is you do not need a TIP, which saves time and money. Quick and last minute trips to Mexico are faster and easier, as a TIP requires time at the border or online to obtain the permit. You will need proof of citizenship, proof that you own the vehicle and a Mexican tourist card (Forma Migratoria Mรบltiple or FMM), a refundable deposit and a fee. All requires some preplanning.

What if I accidentally travel outside the free zone without a TIP?
It is illegal to travel outside the Mexico free zone without a TIP. Your vehicle could be confiscated and you could be escorted back to the border or taken to jail.

Do I need Mexico Insurance if I travel in the Free Zone?
Absolutely. Liability insurance provided by a Mexican insurer is required to drive your vehicle in Mexico. Without liability insurance, you could be detained until you can prove the ability to pay damages in an at-fault accident. Mexico laws continue to get stricter, so be prepared with Mexico insurance.

Do I need a passport to travel to the Free Zone?
Yes, a passport or passport card is required to travel anywhere in Mexico. It is possible you will not be asked to present it, but it is the law.

If youโ€™re on the fence about where to travel in Mexico, you may want to consider the free zone for the ease of access, quick border crossings and loads of fun!


https://www.mexpro.com/blog/mexico-hassle-free-vehicle-zone

Mexico Hassle Free Vehicle Zone
Posted February 14, 2014 by Mike Mercer & filed under Baja, Driving to Mexico, Free Zone, Sonora, Vehicle Import Permit.

Mexicoโ€™s Hassle Free Vehicle Zone or โ€œFree Zoneโ€œ

The Hassle Free Vehicle Zone, which is also sometimes referred to as the Perimeter Zone, the Liberated Zone or the Free Trade Zone, are areas along the international border that have been designated by the Mexican government to have reduced customs requirements.

The free zone initiative was begun to help promote Mexico tourism and create greater economic growth for the areas along the U.S. border. Within the free zone, customs importation requirements are essentially removed, allowing goods from other countries to enter Mexico duty free. The Mexican customs checkpoints have been moved further into the interior of Mexico, typically 20 to 26 kilometers, to create a zone that extends along the entire northern border of Mexico.

A few Mexican states have extended free zones
All of Mexicoโ€™s Baja Peninsula, including the states Baja California and Baja California Sur are inside the free zone. Also, the northwest portion of the state of Sonora, where the zone is delineated by a couple of Mexican Federal Highways. The Free Zone includes the portion of the state of Sonora that lies to the northwest of Mexico Federal Highway Number 2, starting at Agua Prieta, extending through Cananea, up to where it intersects with Mexican Federal Highway Number 15 in Imuris. From Imuris, the free zone is again all of the areas to the north and/or west of Mexico Federal Highway Number 15, which runs south through Magdalena, Santa Ana, Casa Blanca, Benjamin Hill and Hemosillo.

Just north of Guaymas, Highway 15 splits with the Libramiento Guaymas portion extending towards the southeast. Here the free zone encompasses the areas to the south and to the west of Highway 15, to include the areas of Santa Clara, Hacienda El Pardo, Guaymas, and Empalme. The end of the free zone is marked on Mexican Federal Highway Number 15 at kilometer 98, southeast of Empalme.

Temporary Vehicle Importation Permit not required
Within the free zone, the temporary import permit is not required. However, if you travel outside of the free zone, you will have to pass through the customs checkpoint, and will need to pay a deposit to obtain a Temporary Vehicle Importation Permit Sticker, which you will need to display on your windshield. Temporary vehicle import stickers must be returned at the border. If you do not return the sticker, not only will you forfeit your deposit, but you also will not be allowed to apply for any future Temporary Vehicle Importation Permits. So, until you return the sticker, you wonโ€™t be able to bring any other vehicles into Mexico.

Once you return the importation sticker, then your deposit can be returned. For more information about obtaining Temporary Vehicle Importation Permits, you can contact the Banco Nacional del Ejรฉrcito, Fuerza Aรฉrea y Armada, a.k.a. the Banjercito.

Even in the free zone, you still need to purchase insurance
If plan to drive your car, truck, van, SUV, motorcycle or motorhome across the border, even if you will be staying inside the free zone the entire time, you will need to have a valid in-force policy that includes Mexican liability insurance coverage.
It does not matter if you are only driving a few feet across the border, you are required to have Mexican liability coverage anywhere inside of Mexico. It is also important to remember that by Mexico law, no U.S. insurer can sell Mexican liability insurance, and the mandatory coverage may only be obtained from an actual Mexican insurance company.

So, even if your U.S. insurance includes an extension of physical damage coverage for Mexico, you still must purchase a separate policy that includes liability coverage from a Mexico insurance carrier. If you would like to learn more about what is included in Mexico Liability insurance policy, as well as the other coverage items that are available, please visit the Mexico Insurance

Professionals website at:

https://www.mexpro.com/mexico/coverage.html.

The page also has links to an online form where you can get quick and easy comparative quotes for Mexico Tourist Auto Insurance from all โ€œA ratedโ€ Mexican Insurance Carriers. You can even purchase and print your policy, right from your own computer, anytime, day or night.

If you have other questions about the Mexico free zone, temporary vehicle importation permit requirements or about Mexico Tourist Auto Insurance in general, you can call to speak with a Mexico insurance specialist agent at 888-467-4639.


Also Lewis and Lewis for insurance online


https://www.mexicanautoinsurance.com/

moisheh
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Dave: I think Penasco is not part of the no hassle zone. It is a free zone. No Hassle zone need permits for motorhomes. Not cars.

Moisheh

hypoxia
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daveB110 wrote:
buy a FFM, which is a tourist permit,

I have never bought that or know anyone that has in all of the years I have gone there.
Jim

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daveB110
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jffnkrn, I believe Rocky Point remains in the "Hassel-free zone." This means you do not have to Temperary Import your vehicles. You will want to carry your passport, and buy a FFM, which is a tourist permit, one for each traveling with you (like the Passports). You will want to have liability insurance for Mexico, through a Mexican company (there are several brokers north of the border who sell this liability insurance. If you are with Progressive you may be able to buy their comprehensive insurance as a rider or go with the same broker you used for the liability (Lewis and Lewis doing business in California sell all this).

hypoxia
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Nothing happening, as expected. Supposedly the Arizona politicians are involved to resurrect it. I have heard the fishing is good around the pier from a kayak.

Good riddance I say. The arrival of the first boat will signal the demise of RV camping and I will never visit again.
Jim

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jffnkrn
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mexicoruss wrote:
Let me know what you are looking for and I can help direct you to the right RV park..they are all different, but they are all good.

Not sure of what i am looking for. kids want to go to rocky point next year so i thought i would start checking some stuff out. i am concerned about travel with our rv south of the border as i am not familiar with process etc. you can read all kinds of stuff, just get somewhat confusing at times for a worrysome guy like me. thanks, good luck & be safe !

moisheh
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What happened to that pier construction? I remember that after the last election the previous Governor had taken all the $$. But that was a year ago???

Moisheh

hypoxia
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I drove through Playa de Oro yesterday. It looked good, we haven't stayed there for many years. It doesn't appeal to us now.

Playa Bonita is still very busy and fairly crowded. We stay there mainly due to friends there. Wonderful beach, great for walking.

Reef is not busy, large sites and where the ATV/UTV crowd stays. If we were to leave Bonita that is where we would migrate to. Bring a kayak & fish around the unfinished pier.
Jim

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daveB110
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Moisheh, I know you've been known to head to Quartzsite for a short trip. Well, we can be there after the big tent is long gone, and there are vast areas of BLM land-its called "space!" We really enjoy this, always some friends nearby, but spaced out. Of course this applies to so many places visited. We don"t mind paying to camp, but know that in the best of sites satifaction has gobs of quiet firmly linked to it. That's not usually an RV Park. We like the Fountain of Youth, 10 miles from the Salton Sea and Parks in Goodyear, for hockey games and Spring Training baseball.

A friend has a place ocean front in San Carlos. At Semana Santa it is days before he can get his car out, they are camped all around and his beach disappears, replaced by hundreds of yards of tent fabric. But ao Many people have so much fun!

At Tenacatita, Christmas time always brought families to the small beach where about 15 RV'ers spent the winter, and they often as not would camp very near. It was a good time, our Spanish was not good but we got along well; if they had some English we developed some frienships. But at those latitudes Easter was too warm, most RV'ers were gone from that beach and by the middle or late February. We'd head for the cool of the Guadalajara area.

moisheh
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Dave: You do not want to be in Kino for Semana Santa. 3 days of hell!!! The following week can be even worse. Called Devil's week or Junior's week. High school and young university kids. Other times Kino is actually very quiet. The road from HMO is excellent. Lots of room at the RV parks. Free guide to the area ( ME!)

Moisheh





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daveB110
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We were at the Reef 3 years ago, but on the beach side, a dry camp arrangement we were happy with. Access to water, dump and laundry permitted as part of the very small fee. With the construction of extensive breakwater for the proposed cruise ship development, this may now be history. Where the RV Park is located, it looked well thought out, and close to the nice restaurent. At that time, the whole area was off on its own, with a sandy road to town. We enjoyed it and the city, but left as the spring revellers began to show up with their dust throwing machines. (We are just old and crotchetty, I'm guessing!) But in the RV Park itself, this will not be a problem, I should emphasize.

Moisheh, after seven years wintering south of PV, the States of Baja and Sonora had always been bypassed. Although we always stopped at San Carlos, we had never been out to Bahia Kino and the impending crowds at that time of the year turned us north to the border instead of carrying on south. All our information about that area rests with your posts on this forum, and thank you! Happy Trails!