A site for all y'all wanting to do a mini-camper or DIY van

francheska wrote:
Like he says he uses his conversions to see how well they work verses most of these design people that haven't got a clue.

People who use their configurations have it all over people who dont. Even so, different people have different needs and renting before buying is good for "finished" products while build, try, build, try is good for us DIY. I am still tweaking the inside of mine after 3 years and 6+ trips.