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- msmith1199Explorer IIIt doesn't say no propane (on their website either) it says no more than 10 pounds per container and you can have up to 10 containers. I don't know about your motorhome, but I think I'd have to drain off my tank to get to less than 10 pounds. A regular five gallon portable tank holds 20 pounds when full.
- charlysmom_dadExplorerThanks to all. Made it through without a problem.
- wny_pat1Explorer
Mike and Trish wrote:
The signs say "NO HAZMATS", but do they apply to you? Are you hauling Hazmat? If you are, then if you meet the Class 2, division 2.1 flammable gas requirements you darn well better register your RV with the DOT, the FMCSA, and put the proper placards on it along the the name of the company that has operation authority, obtain the Hazardous Materials Certificate of Registration, and get yourself the required insurance policy which cost much, much more that what you are paying right now, a CDL and a DOT medical certificate because it falls under FMCSA's safety regulation - "Any size vehicle used in the transportation of materials found to be hazardous for the purposes of the Hazardous Materials Transportation Act (49 U.S.C. 5101 et seq.) and which require the motor vehicle to be placarded under the Hazardous Materials Regulations (49 CFR chapter I, subchapter C)", because that is what Class 2, division 2.1 flammable gas falls under.wny_pat wrote:
The Maryland law as written:
I took the liberty of putting certain paragraphs in bold. Now I believe that if your are carrying less that 1001 pounds of Class 2, division 2.1 flammable gas that you are okay to go thru those tunnels. Now if I am wrong, your vehicle darn well better be placarded and be properly registered for hauling HAZMAT material and have the proper insurance policy. And I could be wrong on both accounts. But I believe the requirement is to stop and turn off your propane tank valves.
This has been covered countless times on this forum. No propane tanks are allowed in the Baltimore Harbor or Fort McHenry tunnels, period. While some report getting away with it, others report being turned around and/or ticketed. The signs approaching the tunnels make it very clear.
Whether the law as written is equally clear is irrelevant, unless you plan to argue your case on the spot with the state trooper or toll booth attendant. - Mike_and_TrishExplorer
wny_pat wrote:
The Maryland law as written:
I took the liberty of putting certain paragraphs in bold. Now I believe that if your are carrying less that 1001 pounds of Class 2, division 2.1 flammable gas that you are okay to go thru those tunnels. Now if I am wrong, your vehicle darn well better be placarded and be properly registered for hauling HAZMAT material and have the proper insurance policy. And I could be wrong on both accounts. But I believe the requirement is to stop and turn off your propane tank valves.
This has been covered countless times on this forum. No propane tanks are allowed in the Baltimore Harbor or Fort McHenry tunnels, period. While some report getting away with it, others report being turned around and/or ticketed. The signs approaching the tunnels make it very clear.
Whether the law as written is equally clear is irrelevant, unless you plan to argue your case on the spot with the state trooper or toll booth attendant. - Go_DogsExplorerI don't know how far on the turnpike you're traveling but there are 3 similar tunnels. Tractor Trailers go thru them. We've been thru them in a hybrid, Class C and travel trailer-no problem. Check the PA turnpike website for fares,(count your axles)and construction.
- wny_pat1ExplorerThe Maryland law as written:
11.07.01.04
".04 Tunnel Restrictions.
A. This regulation does not apply to fuel contained in the fuel system of the transporting vehicle, or in the fuel systems of vehicles and equipment being towed or carried.
B. Flames used for heating vehicles or loads shall be extinguished before the vehicle enters any tunnel or its approaches.
C. The following classes of hazardous materials are prohibited from being transported through any tunnel or its approaches, as indicated:
(1) Forbidden materials and forbidden explosives are prohibited;
(2) Class 1 explosives are prohibited;
(3) Class 2, division 2.1 flammable gas is prohibited, with exceptions for propane, LPG, CNG, LNG, and other flammable compressed gas in U.S.D.O.T. approved containers, in quantities not to exceed 10 pounds gross weight per container, and 100 pounds gross weight per vehicle;
(4) Class 2, Division 2.2 nonflammable compressed gas is prohibited, with the following exceptions:
(a) Argon, compressed,
(b) Argon, refrigerated liquid,
(c) Carbon dioxide, refrigerated liquid,
(d) Compressed air in containers only, although this is prohibited if in tank vehicles,
(e) Helium, compressed,
(f) Nitrogen, refrigerated liquid,
(g) Nitrogen, compressed, or
(h) Oxygen in containers only, although this is prohibited if in tank vehicles;
(5) Class 2, division 2.3 poisonous gas is prohibited;
(6) Class 3, flammable liquid is prohibited, with exceptions for motor fuel and petroleum-based products in U.S.D.O.T. or Underwriter's Laboratory approved containers in total quantities not to exceed 5 gallons per container and 20 gallons per vehicle;
(7) Class 3, combustible liquid is permitted, with the exception of formaldehyde solutions which are prohibited;
(8) Class 4, division 4.1 flammable solid is prohibited, with the exception of fusees in quantities not to exceed 100 pounds per vehicle;
(9) Class 4, division 4.2 spontaneously combustible materials are prohibited;
(10) Class 4, division 4.3 dangerous-when-wet materials are prohibited;
(11) Class 5, division 5.1 oxidizers are prohibited;
(12) Class 5, division 5.2 organic peroxides are prohibited;
(13) Class 6, division 6.1 poisonous materials are prohibited, with the following exceptions:
(a) Arsenic in any form or compound,
(b) Tree-killing or weed-killing liquid compounds,
(c) Cyanide of potassium,
(d) Cyanide of sodium,
(e) Drugs, chemicals, medicines, or cosmetics, not otherwise specified, liquid or solid,
(f) Insecticides, dry, or
(g) Motor fuel antiknock compound;
(14) Class 6, division 6.2 infectious substances are prohibited;
(15) Class 7, radioactive materials are prohibited, with the exception of manufactured articles such as instrument or clock dials, electronic tubes of which radioactive materials are a component part, watches, X-ray machines, smoke detectors, etc;
(16) Class 8, corrosive materials are prohibited, except batteries;
(17) Class 9, miscellaneous hazardous material is prohibited, with the exception of oils, N.O.S., with a flashpoint not less than 93°C (200°F); and
(18) Other regulated material: ORM-D is permitted.
D. Tank vehicles which are empty, or which have a residue of not more than 50 gallons, or vehicles transporting empty containers are prohibited from entering any tunnel if they previously transported a prohibited hazardous material, with the following exceptions:
(1) Tank vehicles or containers that have been sufficiently cleaned of residue and purged of vapor to remove any potential hazard;
(2) Tank vehicles or containers that have been reloaded with a material not classified as a hazardous material;
(3) Tank vehicles or containers whose previous cargo was:
(a) A Class 3 combustible liquid,
(b) A Class 8 corrosive material,
(c) A Class 5 oxidizer, or
(d) A Class 5 organic peroxide; or
(4) Completely empty containers whose previous cargo was a Class 3 flammable liquid.
E. Tank vehicles used to transport Class 3 flammable liquids, even if empty, are prohibited from entering any tunnel.
F. Notwithstanding the restrictions in §§A—E of this regulation, vehicles transporting hazardous materials prohibited from entering any tunnel may use:
(1) The Baltimore Harbor Tunnel Thruway from the Child Street entrance ramp in a southbound direction only;
(2) I-95 northbound to the Key Highway exit ramp south of the Fort McHenry Tunnel, and from the Keith Avenue entrance ramp north of the Fort McHenry Tunnel; or
(3) I-95 southbound to the Keith Avenue exit ramp north of the Fort McHenry Tunnel and from the Key Highway entrance ramp south of the Fort McHenry tunnel."
source: http://www.dsd.state.md.us/comar/getfile.aspx?file=11.07.01.04.htm
I took the liberty of putting certain paragraphs in bold. Now I believe that if your are carrying less that 1001 pounds of Class 2, division 2.1 flammable gas that you are okay to go thru those tunnels. Now if I am wrong, your vehicle darn well better be placarded and be properly registered for hauling HAZMAT material and have the proper insurance policy. And I could be wrong on both accounts. But I believe the requirement is to stop and turn off your propane tank valves. - Coyote74ExplorerHarbor tunnel also in MD. Along the 95 corridor restricted. You must take 695 W around Baltimore or go E to scott key bridge and go around.
- Bill1374ExplorerThe fort McHenry tunnel on 95 in Baltimore prohibits propane, therefore no rvs.
- Rescue16ExplorerThe Hampton Roads Bridge Tunnel on 64 you have to stop and have your propane checked also and demonstrate to the inspector that it is off.
- rgatijnet1Explorer IIIThe only tunnel that we have run into so far that restricted propane was the Chesapeake Bay Bridge tunnel. All it required was an inspection to make sure that the valve was turned off.
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