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CatchinBluegill's avatar
Mar 01, 2016

Bounder 35H hitch sticker: what does this mean?

Hi,

Late last year, I bought a 2009 Bounder 35H Commercial (former rental; looks like a 2008 35H and is built on a 2007 F53 chassis, but nevertheless is officially a 2009 on the sticker, even though it has a 2008 owner's manual). On the trailer hitch, there is a sticker that a weight capacity sticker that reads:

Max Gross Trlr Wt Max Tongue Wt
Weight Distributing 0 0
Weight Carrying Ball Mount 5000 5000
Dinghy Towing 0 0

I understand the 0 for a weight-distributing hitch, but don't understand why there would be a 5000 pound tow capacity (which is what the vehicle specs say, too) but 0 for dinghy towing? Does that really mean I can't dinghy tow with this hitch? If so, why would that be the case? Is it possible the rental company (El Monte) just had that sticker on there no discourage people from pulling toads?

I have all of the original documentation for the vehicle - even the window sticker, but there's nothing in there about the hitch, it's capacity, or who made it. The sticker itself has a number, B37-0103, which appears to be a hitch part number. I found a '99 Discovery 36T parts list that give a hitch model number of B37-0009, as a correlating point, but no brand name. The hitch seems to be a total no-name unit; does anyone know who made these hitches for Fleetwood and/or have a spec sheet that could be used to determine if this hitch really can or cannot be used for dinghy towing?

The vehicle I plan to tow is heavy but within the 5000 pound limit (2009 Odyssey).

EDIT: Fleetwood support's statement is, "People do use a dinghy or dolly when towing. The hitch on that year we believe would be a Drawtite hitch."

While not quite a "Yeah, go ahead and do it," it tends to confirm my belief that I should be able to do so, and what I see people doing all the time on the road: hauling toads behind 200X Fleetwood products that I assume have the hitch they came with. END EDIT.

Thanks!
  • For your Bounder the stock hitch is 5000 lbs with 500 lb tongue, but you can modify it and safely tow above 5000 lbs like I do..


  • CatchinBluegill wrote:
    lbligh wrote:

    Inside the coach, you should find a federal weight certification sticker that should show everything I have stated here.
    m

    Indeed there is, and I already have all that, but that wasn't the question :)

    The question was, "Why is there a sticker on the hitch itself that gives 5000/500 as the max trailer/tongue weight, but gives 0/0 as the max dinghy tow weight, because that doesn't appear to make sense?"

    My intended dinghy weighs 4500 pounds, so it'll cut into my GVWR by 500, but I try to travel light so I don't expect that to be a problem. I'm just interested in whether or not there's something about that particular hitch that renders it unsuitable for tow bar use. Fleetwood (in my edit), more or less said there isn't, without directly answering the question, and that they think the hitch is a Drawtite.

    So, as far as I can determine at this time, there should be no reason not to tow a dinghy on that hitch.

    Thanks!


    As was stated by someone else, it is likely that the information you are seeing on the receiver/hitch was placed there by the rental company. If you stay within the limits I have quoted from Fleetwood, you are good to go.
  • I have to think that the sticker may have been altered for rental use. Assuming that the hitch is the original factory-installed unit, your hitch is rated for 5,000 lbs. towing with a maximum hitch weight of 500 lbs. I own a 2009 Bounder 32W and have towed both a Toyota Camry on a dolly, and my current 2010 Honda CRV (four down) with no issues whatsoever. You should be fine. Safe travels!
  • The Texan wrote:
    Call the Fleetwood Bounder factory in Decatur IN @ 800-322-8216. They will have the correct answers to your questions


    I emailed them and they responded very quickly but only sort of answered the question, as seen in my edit: "Well, people do it. We think it's a Drawtite" - but they didn't really say why the sticker shows 0/0 for dinghy tow weight, rather than the 5000/500 it shows for ball hitch towing.

    Anyway, based on their sort-of answer, I'm going to go ahead and outfit intended toad for towing.

    Thanks!
  • lbligh wrote:

    Inside the coach, you should find a federal weight certification sticker that should show everything I have stated here.
    m

    Indeed there is, and I already have all that, but that wasn't the question :)

    The question was, "Why is there a sticker on the hitch itself that gives 5000/500 as the max trailer/tongue weight, but gives 0/0 as the max dinghy tow weight, because that doesn't appear to make sense?"

    My intended dinghy weighs 4500 pounds, so it'll cut into my GVWR by 500, but I try to travel light so I don't expect that to be a problem. I'm just interested in whether or not there's something about that particular hitch that renders it unsuitable for tow bar use. Fleetwood (in my edit), more or less said there isn't, without directly answering the question, and that they think the hitch is a Drawtite.

    So, as far as I can determine at this time, there should be no reason not to tow a dinghy on that hitch.

    Thanks!
  • I just pulled the specifications for your coach from Fleetwood. The 2009 35H shows having a 22,000 lbs. Gross Vehicle Weight Rating (GVWR) and a Gross Combined Weight Rating (GCWR) of 26000 lbs. It shows having a Hitch Rating of 5000 lbs and tongue weight maximum of 500 lbs.

    Now, all of that said, IF the coach were to be loaded to its maximum GVWR of 22,000 lbs., you would then only have 4,000 lbs available to reach the maximum limit of your GCWR of 26,000 lbs. Now, if the coach were to only be loaded to an actual weight of 21,000 lbs (or less) you would then be limited to no more than 5000 lbs. as a result of the hitch rating of 5000 lbs.

    Inside the coach, you should find a federal weight certification sticker that should show everything I have stated here.