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Buying a Former Rental Class C. How many of us out there?

IAMICHABOD
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Explorer II
While researching these pages for my next Motor Home I saw a few threads discussing Rentals, most were Pros and Cons but very few posts from people who had purchased one.

I thought it may be a good resource and helpful to hear from these people. The good, the bad, what they liked and what they didnโ€™t. Also if they had any problems, things they changed, if they would recommend this to others or do it again.

Here is my story: I am not a novice, having owned a Class A for more than 15 years and doing the camping thing with my wife and two daughters, I can say โ€œbeen there done thatโ€ But life changes, and I sold everything so I have been away from this for several years. Starting over I lurked here for a while and got a lot of good insight then went looking.

My criteria was: A Class C within by budget, less than 30 feet so I can keep it at home, saving storage $, a rear bed, and a lot of storage space.

What fit that was Winnebago, Fleetwood and a few others, what I found mostly was Jamboree / Tioga 26Q. In the year models 2002 thru 2006. I did my home work looking at NADA and other sites to find the fair prices for the models that I was looking for.

After several months of searching the internet, Craigslist, private ads and Dealerships for a Class C that suited my budget and needs, this is what I found. Of the dozen or so I inquired about.Most were upsidedown in their payments, owing more than they were worth. All were on Ford Chassis, 7 needed tires, all had the original 7 to 10 year old tires, and they all needed repair of the awning and most needed some work inside or out and the maintenance records were sketchy, but most had low mileage. The Dealerships offerings were better but they had a profit margin to maintain so I got older models within my budget or huge up sales that didnโ€™t work for me.

My next step was looking at the rental market for sales. In my area there are 2 large companies that have rental sales, Cruise America and El Monte RV,who also sell Class A RVs.

First up was El Monte RV Their units are production RVs that are made by major manufactures, with TV antennas and hookups inside and out, Ducted A/C and heat, 2 house batteries, a rear ladder and parts are readily available from those manufactureโ€™s. I looked at their web site and it detailed their warranty and what was checked and serviced by their factory trained technicians. The unit I looked at was like new inside, the upholstery on all the seats was new as was the floor mat in the driverโ€™s area, it had a new mattress, still in plastic and a new bedspread. All of the curtains were new also. Newer (2010 mfg date) tires with 98% rubber and the mileage was ninety thousand (90,000).

Then there was Cruise America: Their units that I looked at seemed to be Spartan,no TV antenna or hookups for one,non-ducted A/C,small counter space and only one battery, no rear ladder for inspection and maintenance of roof and built just for them, they were all โ€œrefreshedโ€ their words not mine. They offered extended warranties at a huge cost. All had high mileage, one hundred and thirty thousand (130,000) or more and the price range seemed a little high. The sales staff had a take it or leave it attitude and were not very forthcoming when asked about maintenance records and service,they claim to have proprietary info in those records,It doesn't seem to be a problem for El Monte RV.

At El Monte RV I took a test ride; This Unit was a 2006 Tioga 26Q on a Chevrolet Chassis it rode
Drove and handled much better than the Fords that I had driven. It also had more leg room and was quieter. We got back and I asked about the service and maintenance on it, the salesman, Joey, handed me a 28 page single spaced document asked if I wanted some coffee or something to drink and said โ€œread this and if you have any questions I will answer themโ€.

It detailed everything that was done before and after each rental, the mileage, generator hours and hours billed. Each time it was washed and detailed inside and outside, all fluids were checked and replenished if needed, the holding tanks were washed, LP system was checked for leaks, all torque on wheel lugs were checked, brakes front and rear checked for wear and cracks, pressure in tires, all appliances, generator oil, lights inside and outside, the list goes on and on.

It also listed all oil changes,coolant change,trans service,fuel injector service and cleaning,fuel filters,air filter, new brakes, all repairs and replacements all with date, mileage and time spent in complete detail from day one to when it was pulled from the rental fleet and was refurbished. I have a complete service record on this vehicle.Also the service records on the Onan Generator,all oil changes,air filter and spark plug replacement with hours and date. I negotiated a good deal with them and am very happy with my purchase.

It came with a 1 yr. 12000 mile power train warranty and 30 day on all appliances. It also came with a 28 page maintenance record that detailed everything. Also the original sales packet from Fleetwood with the manual and serial numbers on all appliances,refrigerator, microwave,furnace, AC, water heater, etc. and the manual for the Chassis. I have had no problems with it so far.

(ON EDIT) 5 Years and close to 14000 miles.Just Scheduled Maintenance and new tires,old ones were at the 5 year mark and I wanted new Michelin LTX M/S2s.

There were a few things that it didnโ€™t have as it was a rental and the ones from private parties did have.
โ€ข Power steps, outside Stereo/CD donโ€™t need or want them.
โ€ข An Awning, this I wanted and had installed. A Swivel Seat and a new Window in The Door that I installed.
โ€ข Wheel Simulators, I like the looks so I had them installed and at the same time had Tire Man valve stem kit put on.
โ€ข Replaced the Chinese WFCO with a US Made converter/charger
โ€ข It came with mini blinds and not the day/night that most have, these are more practical and have a lot less failure.
  • It also came with Stainless Steel sinks,easier to maintain than the cheap plastic ones that come in the noncommercial units.

I am very happy with my Rig, it suites my needs and it was in my Budget range, I think I got a good deal.

So if you bought a rental please share your experience here for others to use as a resource.
Or if there are any other questions that have not been covered in these pages, just ask, there are many helpful people on this thread.
2006 TIOGA 26Q CHEVY 6.0 WORKHORSE VORTEC
Former El Monte RV Rental
Retired Teamster Local 692
Buying A Rental Class C
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Photomike
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sachilles wrote:
Hi All,
My family and I are looking seriously into our first RV purchase. A rental 23A from Cruise America looks idea.
We are in Vermont, so the closest Cruise America location is Virginia.
However, Cruise Canada has a location in Montreal Quebec, which is less than a 2 hour drive for us.
Has anybody purchased a unit cross border? Aside from metric units on the dash cluster, did you encounter any issues. Where you able to bring the unit back to the US without issue. My assumption is the chassis is legal to bring into the US.
I've imported cars before, so the paperwork doesn't scare me....but haven't had the pleasure of trying it with a motorhome yet.


The units that I have seen with CC, including mine are all US units. Speedometer is in Miles, Trip can be set to either. I think they are all the same units.
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sachilles
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Hi All,
My family and I are looking seriously into our first RV purchase. A rental 23A from Cruise America looks idea.
We are in Vermont, so the closest Cruise America location is Virginia.
However, Cruise Canada has a location in Montreal Quebec, which is less than a 2 hour drive for us.
Has anybody purchased a unit cross border? Aside from metric units on the dash cluster, did you encounter any issues. Where you able to bring the unit back to the US without issue. My assumption is the chassis is legal to bring into the US.
I've imported cars before, so the paperwork doesn't scare me....but haven't had the pleasure of trying it with a motorhome yet.

Canuck_Hauler
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Hi, I just thought I'd pop in and say Hi.

I'm scheduled to take Delivery of a Cruise Canada Majestic 28A on April 7 and this thread was a big part of my decision to buy a Rental, thanks to the O/P!

I've been RV'ing for the last 10 years with a 5er and a Ram 2500 6.7 Diesel and long before that with many bumper pull units. I drove a used Class A unit at another dealer and while being quieter and bigger I am not sure I am ready for the tall center of gravity of an A and having only a single entrance. The CC 28A will have an Awning thrown in and I asked for new batteries and at least new steering tires. I drove one with 120,000 Miles (195000Km) and it was easy to drive and park so hopefully no issues with my chosen unit that has 110,000 MI as it was buried in a snow drift. I went through several of them on the lot and most of them have front overhand roof leaks and by the shower door the floor was heaved up badly. I chose one that did not have these issues and was almost the cleanest unit in the place despite the higher mileage. I looked at one with 90,000 Miles and it looked trashed and everything was loose, delam everywhere and the likes. CC (in Calgary anyway) does not let you look at a re-manufactured unit but only lets you choose a unit before the rebuild work is done. I would have thought they would have many reman units to choose from instead of looking at trashed ones. In any event, Thanks to this thread I have a good idea of what to look for and will bring a mat and probably a ladder and make sure it's good before I agree to take it home. Of course I'll do an extensive test drive and the bonus is that I'm exceptionally mechanically inclined and usually spot stuff very easily. Anything else I should be looking for before delivery?

Thanks for the great thread!

IAMICHABOD
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Mightykandy,welcome to the Forum and the Former Rental Owners Club you will go on the list as# 98 when you get your RV :B

When that is done come on back and tell us all now it is going,as you can see there are others here that can be of help if needed.

Have a great time!!
2006 TIOGA 26Q CHEVY 6.0 WORKHORSE VORTEC
Former El Monte RV Rental
Retired Teamster Local 692
Buying A Rental Class C

IAMICHABOD
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Explorer II
Prolandsurveyor,welcome to the Forum and the Former Rental Owners Club
You will be # 97 on the list.

I hope you get many great RV adventures as I have and others here have had,I am out right now watching the sun come up overlooking the lake.
Have a great time and come in back later and tell us all how it has been going.
2006 TIOGA 26Q CHEVY 6.0 WORKHORSE VORTEC
Former El Monte RV Rental
Retired Teamster Local 692
Buying A Rental Class C

radiojeffrv
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prolandsurveyor wrote:
I just bought a 2013 f450 Thor majestic 28a. I feel like I got a great deal.....mow i can't wait to take it out


CONGRATULATIONS!! Hope you enjoy your 28A as much as my family and I do!

prolandsurveyor
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I just bought a 2013 f450 Thor majestic 28a. I feel like I got a great deal.....mow i can't wait to take it out
2013 Thor majestic 28a
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socal77
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Explorer II
mightykandy wrote:
Hi,

I am in the process of buying a Class C 28" RV built on E450. This was a former rental. Currently it has about 160K miles on it. The current owner has extended service warranty and there was no claims for engine issue and i also did pre-purchase inspection with the local RV dealer and service, it came out good.

Even though the condition of the engine is good now, i am concerned that 160K miles maybe too much to drive around with the family?

I am a novice in this area. Earlier i had camping trailer but first time with Class C.

Any feedback on this forum would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Kandy


Hi Kandy,

Welcome to the forum. Two years ago I purchased a former Cruise America 28A. It had 161,000 miles when I purchased it. I had concerns too but had it checked out and also talked to people with experience on this forum as well as Cruise America's National Service Manager. They all told me these units are well maintained through their rental lives and that these V-10 Triton engines are good for 300,000+ miles or more. My 28A now has 166,000 miles on it with no problems. We just returned an hour ago from a 1,000 mile 4-day trip. Enjoy your new rig!

mightykandy
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Explorer
Hi,

I am in the process of buying a Class C 28" RV built on E450. This was a former rental. Currently it has about 160K miles on it. The current owner has extended service warranty and there was no claims for engine issue and i also did pre-purchase inspection with the local RV dealer and service, it came out good.

Even though the condition of the engine is good now, i am concerned that 160K miles maybe too much to drive around with the family?

I am a novice in this area. Earlier i had camping trailer but first time with Class C.

Any feedback on this forum would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Kandy

cencerrita
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STEVE-OTR wrote:
Hello Fellow Former Rental Owners!!

Quick question on 2012 Thor Majestic 28A's:
I know that the solar panel is for trickle charging the house battery and that it is rated at 2 watts. I think mine is going bad because
it seems to have a crack in it and the house battery was almost dead the last time I had it in the RV (I removed it and took it home to keep it charged). Will it be okay to replace this solar panel with a 10 watt one? I want my house battery to charge a bit faster. Also does anyone know where the solar charge controller is located? I'm thinking it's somewhere behind the microwave (because when I follow the entry point of the cable on the roof) that's where is seems to go down through. I'm guessing I would have to pull out the microwave to access it. Would love to hear any thoughts. Thanks.

I have a 27G Majestic ex Cruise America and I know the panel is the same as the 28G. Possibly your 2012 23A will be the same. Cable from the roof solar panel comes down behind main level control panel which also has the solar panel charge indicator. Remove and see if you have 12V from your panel as on my vehicle it was the indicator that was faulty and not the panel. Suppliers details were on the panel but they would not respond! You can just wire in missing the indicator as such a small trickle.
At the end of the day we have large solar panels kept in the rear storage space and we take out and position where we want on the ground - great in the Autumn when under trees at a site. Renorgy kit comes with charge unit and cable from this is kept coiled on top of the house battery in the locker. Just pull it out and plug into your panels ๐Ÿ™‚ No risk of holes leaking in a good roof and we can position in the sun where we want ๐Ÿ™‚
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Mich_F
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Tuckerinn wrote:
Thanks, I have looked at the Adco but the smallest Class C cover is a 20-23 ft cover so I was hoping someone might have experience with how they fit the 19g.

We just got our 19g from Cruise Canada and were really on the fence about the ex-rental until we found this thread and it seemed to make alot of sense based on the comments here. We had a good purchase experience and looking forward to enjoying our new rig.


I believe the 19G is about 20' long (without a ladder on the back wall). I assume that cover would be an OK fit.
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Tuckerinn
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Explorer
Thanks, I have looked at the Adco but the smallest Class C cover is a 20-23 ft cover so I was hoping someone might have experience with how they fit the 19g.

We just got our 19g from Cruise Canada and were really on the fence about the ex-rental until we found this thread and it seemed to make alot of sense based on the comments here. We had a good purchase experience and looking forward to enjoying our new rig.

IAMICHABOD
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Explorer II
Tuckerinn,first welcome to the forum and the Former Rental Owners Club you will be #96 on the list.

There are others here that have the 19g and maybe they will chime in later,I have had no experience with a cover but the ADCO Covers seem to get high marks and they do have custom ones. I found their customer service was very good when I called about a windshield cover for my RV,you might give them a call.
2006 TIOGA 26Q CHEVY 6.0 WORKHORSE VORTEC
Former El Monte RV Rental
Retired Teamster Local 692
Buying A Rental Class C

Tuckerinn
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Explorer
Recenntly purchased a Majestic 19g from Cruise Canada. Looking for an all season cover to fit it. Does anyone found a cover that fits these properly?

jonthebru
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To the folks discussing solar. Replacing a tiny panel with another small panel is not the best route. Adding a decent amount of solar charging potential is quite easy. There are many Youtube videos that provide good technique and tips. These aren't much different than any other Class C RV. First thing is to make the roof nice, all patched up and clean then attach the panels (maybe a 100 watt panel, or 2- 100 watt panels or a 160 watt panel. Buy from a reputable name, there are several.) Run the wiring to a controller then to the battery(ies). It's a good time to add a second battery. Along the way remove the little trickle charger panel. This is a quick video done by RVerTV, it shows a rudimentary solar install. I would try to put the wires down a vent instead of straight through the roof. He had his reasons for doing that of course so you can figure out how you want to run the wiring for your rig. https://youtu.be/p5BmUA5Dnjc
There are many videos like this one to help figure it out.