cancel
Showing results forย 
Search instead forย 
Did you mean:ย 

Buying a Former Rental Class C. How many of us out there?

IAMICHABOD
Explorer II
Explorer II
While researching these pages for my next Motor Home I saw a few threads discussing Rentals, most were Pros and Cons but very few posts from people who had purchased one.

I thought it may be a good resource and helpful to hear from these people. The good, the bad, what they liked and what they didnโ€™t. Also if they had any problems, things they changed, if they would recommend this to others or do it again.

Here is my story: I am not a novice, having owned a Class A for more than 15 years and doing the camping thing with my wife and two daughters, I can say โ€œbeen there done thatโ€ But life changes, and I sold everything so I have been away from this for several years. Starting over I lurked here for a while and got a lot of good insight then went looking.

My criteria was: A Class C within by budget, less than 30 feet so I can keep it at home, saving storage $, a rear bed, and a lot of storage space.

What fit that was Winnebago, Fleetwood and a few others, what I found mostly was Jamboree / Tioga 26Q. In the year models 2002 thru 2006. I did my home work looking at NADA and other sites to find the fair prices for the models that I was looking for.

After several months of searching the internet, Craigslist, private ads and Dealerships for a Class C that suited my budget and needs, this is what I found. Of the dozen or so I inquired about.Most were upsidedown in their payments, owing more than they were worth. All were on Ford Chassis, 7 needed tires, all had the original 7 to 10 year old tires, and they all needed repair of the awning and most needed some work inside or out and the maintenance records were sketchy, but most had low mileage. The Dealerships offerings were better but they had a profit margin to maintain so I got older models within my budget or huge up sales that didnโ€™t work for me.

My next step was looking at the rental market for sales. In my area there are 2 large companies that have rental sales, Cruise America and El Monte RV,who also sell Class A RVs.

First up was El Monte RV Their units are production RVs that are made by major manufactures, with TV antennas and hookups inside and out, Ducted A/C and heat, 2 house batteries, a rear ladder and parts are readily available from those manufactureโ€™s. I looked at their web site and it detailed their warranty and what was checked and serviced by their factory trained technicians. The unit I looked at was like new inside, the upholstery on all the seats was new as was the floor mat in the driverโ€™s area, it had a new mattress, still in plastic and a new bedspread. All of the curtains were new also. Newer (2010 mfg date) tires with 98% rubber and the mileage was ninety thousand (90,000).

Then there was Cruise America: Their units that I looked at seemed to be Spartan,no TV antenna or hookups for one,non-ducted A/C,small counter space and only one battery, no rear ladder for inspection and maintenance of roof and built just for them, they were all โ€œrefreshedโ€ their words not mine. They offered extended warranties at a huge cost. All had high mileage, one hundred and thirty thousand (130,000) or more and the price range seemed a little high. The sales staff had a take it or leave it attitude and were not very forthcoming when asked about maintenance records and service,they claim to have proprietary info in those records,It doesn't seem to be a problem for El Monte RV.

At El Monte RV I took a test ride; This Unit was a 2006 Tioga 26Q on a Chevrolet Chassis it rode
Drove and handled much better than the Fords that I had driven. It also had more leg room and was quieter. We got back and I asked about the service and maintenance on it, the salesman, Joey, handed me a 28 page single spaced document asked if I wanted some coffee or something to drink and said โ€œread this and if you have any questions I will answer themโ€.

It detailed everything that was done before and after each rental, the mileage, generator hours and hours billed. Each time it was washed and detailed inside and outside, all fluids were checked and replenished if needed, the holding tanks were washed, LP system was checked for leaks, all torque on wheel lugs were checked, brakes front and rear checked for wear and cracks, pressure in tires, all appliances, generator oil, lights inside and outside, the list goes on and on.

It also listed all oil changes,coolant change,trans service,fuel injector service and cleaning,fuel filters,air filter, new brakes, all repairs and replacements all with date, mileage and time spent in complete detail from day one to when it was pulled from the rental fleet and was refurbished. I have a complete service record on this vehicle.Also the service records on the Onan Generator,all oil changes,air filter and spark plug replacement with hours and date. I negotiated a good deal with them and am very happy with my purchase.

It came with a 1 yr. 12000 mile power train warranty and 30 day on all appliances. It also came with a 28 page maintenance record that detailed everything. Also the original sales packet from Fleetwood with the manual and serial numbers on all appliances,refrigerator, microwave,furnace, AC, water heater, etc. and the manual for the Chassis. I have had no problems with it so far.

(ON EDIT) 5 Years and close to 14000 miles.Just Scheduled Maintenance and new tires,old ones were at the 5 year mark and I wanted new Michelin LTX M/S2s.

There were a few things that it didnโ€™t have as it was a rental and the ones from private parties did have.
โ€ข Power steps, outside Stereo/CD donโ€™t need or want them.
โ€ข An Awning, this I wanted and had installed. A Swivel Seat and a new Window in The Door that I installed.
โ€ข Wheel Simulators, I like the looks so I had them installed and at the same time had Tire Man valve stem kit put on.
โ€ข Replaced the Chinese WFCO with a US Made converter/charger
โ€ข It came with mini blinds and not the day/night that most have, these are more practical and have a lot less failure.
  • It also came with Stainless Steel sinks,easier to maintain than the cheap plastic ones that come in the noncommercial units.

I am very happy with my Rig, it suites my needs and it was in my Budget range, I think I got a good deal.

So if you bought a rental please share your experience here for others to use as a resource.
Or if there are any other questions that have not been covered in these pages, just ask, there are many helpful people on this thread.
2006 TIOGA 26Q CHEVY 6.0 WORKHORSE VORTEC
Former El Monte RV Rental
Retired Teamster Local 692
Buying A Rental Class C
1,715 REPLIES 1,715

STEVE-OTR
Explorer
Explorer
qcstang wrote:
Hi All, first post in here.

I will be able to retire at the the end of the month without penalty.

So we are looking at buying a CA (CDN version) 2011 Majestic 28A. I have most of the information I need, but can someone please inform me as to what the Carrying capacity of a 28A is? Can't seem to find that info anywhere.

Thanks for any help!

Daniel.


Hi, qcstang:
Open the passenger door, and look right under the inside door handle. There you will see a Yellow label which indicates the Cargo Carrying capacity. I have a 28a and it states something around 3,144 lbs if my memory serves correct. With the door closed, the passenger seat kinda blocks this label and so it cannot be seen easily when the door is closed (see pic). Total that the motor home is designed to carry is 14500 lbs. With the motor home completely empty (empty tanks, only the driver, and empty storage) it should weigh in at about 10,500-11,000 lbs.

If you have all tanks topped off: 9 gals propane, 6 gals water for water heater, 48 gals of city water and 55 gals of fuel, together all of this weighs about 830 lbs which would have to be subtracted from the 3,144. So real CCC is 2314 lbs. If you have 7 passengers and each one weighs an average of 154 lbs then take away another 1078 lbs. Which would finally leave you with 1236 lbs that can be a mixture of food, the dogs or pets, clothing or bikes and any camping equipment.

Sorry I made the reply so long. I hope it helps. Also keep-in-mind that you can have the RV weighed on the CAT scales, Empty or Full, at a Loves, Flying-J or at the Pilot Travel centers.

2012 Majestic 28A
Ford E-450 V-10

STEVE-OTR
Explorer
Explorer
510dogmom wrote:
Mocoondo wrote:
510dogmom wrote:
I'm reading about how CA cuts you off after you purchase and will not repair items they promise to once the rig is off the lot. I purchased mine with an email agreement that they would fix a number of items. That was two weeks ago and they are still "waiting for the parts to come in." I am getting anxious as I am 15 days out since purchase. Any advice?


What parts?


Oh, sorry, I understand your question now. New cover for the mattress, fixing tear in screen door, replace parts on the windows to keep them up, repair a chip in the window, check the heater... things like that.


Wow, I thought I was the only one experiencing this. So this is my story. Back in Feb 2017 I purchased an 2012 Majestic 28A from CA in Florida. Everything worked which was great news but being the DIY guy that I am I just had to dig deeper and really go thru every nook and cranny. What did I find? I had several of the light covers falling off when on the road, shower head (flow stop button) was leaking when I would engage the stop, shower faucet hose also leaked via the seal, Ventline roof vent seals were yellow and cracking, restroom mirror had a bad latch, dump sewer line was leaking right at the discharge valves with both valves fully closed (didn't notice until I started using it), cover for table leg storage was missing and water leak was seen coming out of one of the Rooftop A/C vents after RV sat in Storage lot in periods of rain.

The Sales guy in Orlando told me that if I find any issues, within the 30 days after I purchased the unit, to give him a call or email him. So I took pictures of all the things that i found and sent an explanation of what the issues were. I got a call back almost immediately. The sales guy in Orlando got me in touch with the parts guy from CA in Phoenix. This gentleman also called me and gave me his email. I explained that I am a DIY'r and so if CA would simply send me the replacement items, I would repair the issues myself. So he said He would and it took me several more, reminder emails and voice mails (March thru April) until just a few days ago I finally received a huge box full of parts. Mind you I only asked for new seals for the shower head, new seals for the dump valves, the gasket for the A/C unit, the plastic light covers, the latch for the restroom mirror, the Ventline Roof vent seals and the cover for the table leg storage compartment. Well, they must have felt really bad, for making me wait for so long, because in the box was 3 brand new Ventline Vents (the whole unit) with metal frames and all and 3 packages of new seals also, an entire restroom mirror door (brand new), the table leg storage cover and base, 3 sets of the Warm LED light fixtures (only asked for the covers), the entire shower faucet assembly and hose, complete with new shower head, roof A/C gasket and the dump valve complete assemblies (new valves) for the gray and black water tanks. When my wife called to tell me the box arrived, I was expecting a very small box instead I see the huge box in my living room with the new replacement parts.

I was just about to right off CA but will not. It was very generous of them and each time I spoke to the CA parts guys on the phone he was very pleasant and was very apologetic for any delays. They have made a life-time customer out of me. I did have to be persistent however. So don't quit on asking for repairs or parts. I hope they can address all of your issues.
2012 Majestic 28A
Ford E-450 V-10

510dogmom
Explorer
Explorer
IAMICHABOD wrote:
510dogmom. The mirror most likely is a Velvac,they can be ordered from
Ryder

you can find the part # under the mirror like this
Left Mirror:



Right Mirror:



Unless y'all have completely different mirrors, Velvac mirrors have been side specific for at least the last 10 years and possibly longer.

Give them a call I have found that they are very helpful,I have replaced mine thru them.
Edit If it is just the mirror head it may be this one
Mirror Head
To be safe give them a call.


Thanks! I found a place in Hayward, California called Heavy Equipment Parts. They were charging $50 less than Ryder!

Photomike
Explorer III
Explorer III
510dogmom wrote:
Back up Cameras. I am looking to install a backup camera on my 2012 CA 23A Majestic. The shop I took it to says it cannot install one due to the solid construction of the rear wall. Does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks


You can go wireless, take the power off the running lights and you can get a small weatherproof box to put the unit in and attach to the wall or bumper.
2017 Ford Transit
EVO Electric bike
Advanced Elements Kayaks

disc01971
Explorer
Explorer
510dogmom wrote:
Back up Cameras. I am looking to install a backup camera on my 2012 CA 23A Majestic. The shop I took it to says it cannot install one due to the solid construction of the rear wall. Does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks


Im either going Wifi, or Auto-vox type that uses rear view mirror as monitor. Since i only use scooter on hitch ill use License plate camera and run wire under RV.

510dogmom
Explorer
Explorer
Back up Cameras. I am looking to install a backup camera on my 2012 CA 23A Majestic. The shop I took it to says it cannot install one due to the solid construction of the rear wall. Does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks

510dogmom
Explorer
Explorer
Mocoondo wrote:
510dogmom wrote:
I'm reading about how CA cuts you off after you purchase and will not repair items they promise to once the rig is off the lot. I purchased mine with an email agreement that they would fix a number of items. That was two weeks ago and they are still "waiting for the parts to come in." I am getting anxious as I am 15 days out since purchase. Any advice?


What parts?


Oh, sorry, I understand your question now. New cover for the mattress, fixing tear in screen door, replace parts on the windows to keep them up, repair a chip in the window, check the heater... things like that.

510dogmom
Explorer
Explorer
I'm not sure I understand your question. Please clarify.

Mocoondo
Explorer II
Explorer II
510dogmom wrote:
I'm reading about how CA cuts you off after you purchase and will not repair items they promise to once the rig is off the lot. I purchased mine with an email agreement that they would fix a number of items. That was two weeks ago and they are still "waiting for the parts to come in." I am getting anxious as I am 15 days out since purchase. Any advice?


What parts?

510dogmom
Explorer
Explorer
I'm reading about how CA cuts you off after you purchase and will not repair items they promise to once the rig is off the lot. I purchased mine with an email agreement that they would fix a number of items. That was two weeks ago and they are still "waiting for the parts to come in." I am getting anxious as I am 15 days out since purchase. Any advice?

qcstang
Explorer
Explorer
Hi All, first post in here.

I will be able to retire at the the end of the month without penalty.

So we are looking at buying a CA (CDN version) 2011 Majestic 28A. I have most of the information I need, but can someone please inform me as to what the Carrying capacity of a 28A is? Can't seem to find that info anywhere.

Thanks for any help!

Daniel.

IAMICHABOD
Explorer II
Explorer II
510dogmom. The mirror most likely is a Velvac,they can be ordered from
Ryder

you can find the part # under the mirror like this
Left Mirror:



Right Mirror:



Unless y'all have completely different mirrors, Velvac mirrors have been side specific for at least the last 10 years and possibly longer.

Give them a call I have found that they are very helpful,I have replaced mine thru them.
Edit If it is just the mirror head it may be this one
Mirror Head
To be safe give them a call.
2006 TIOGA 26Q CHEVY 6.0 WORKHORSE VORTEC
Former El Monte RV Rental
Retired Teamster Local 692
Buying A Rental Class C

510dogmom
Explorer
Explorer
Hi all, again,

I need help with fixing my CA 2012 23A Majestic. After only 2 weeks of ownership, I managed to destroy my driver's side mirror. Does anyone know the part number? Also, I want to install a back up camera but the local shop is flummoxed because the walls are solid and he can't thread a wire down the back wall. Any suggestions?

Cathy

disc01971
Explorer
Explorer
Ive been lurker for a while, read entire thread before purchasing CA 24a rental 2 months ago. I also got ours in Washington from same place as rice classic above. We also replaced shocks at our cost, but with Koni shocks. Front ball joints, Rear axle bearing, Exhaust manifold, front and rear brakes all replaced by Cruise America @ Ford fleet center in Tacoma. Before we picked up they replaced, toilet gasket, new kitchen faucet, replaced windshield, new hinges on all cabinet doors, New rear bumper, re-caulked entire RV, and put in new battery.
My advice for anybody looking @ CA is to not be in a hurry. Dont leave the lot until everything you see is fixed. We saw ours and created a list and came back a week later once was fixed. I saw another couple that came in to take theirs the same day site unseen from other side of state. We walked through other Rvs just to be nosy and saw issues with each one. I believe people just leave with them as is and either are happy because of price savings or find out later they arent perfect then complain..

IAMICHABOD
Explorer II
Explorer II
Augydog,welcome to the forum and the Former Rental Club!
You are #87 on the list.Sounds like you got a good deal.It looks like you have put a lot of miles on it. Nice to hear you would do it again.

Happy Camping.
2006 TIOGA 26Q CHEVY 6.0 WORKHORSE VORTEC
Former El Monte RV Rental
Retired Teamster Local 692
Buying A Rental Class C