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Europe Tour with a Class B. Buy or Rent?

Leo_Smith
Explorer
Explorer
My wife and I are talking about taking off 6 to 12 months to travel around Europe. We are serious campers here in the US and thought it would be great to tour Europe in a Class B. Here are some options we are considering:
1. Rent a Class B in Europe
2. Buy a Class B in Europe, then sell it in Europe at the end of our journey.
3. Buy a Class B in Europe, then at the end of the journey, have it shipped to the US.
Any thoughts on these options?
Thanks!
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tatest
Explorer II
Explorer II
I would say rent, based on practical issues like import/export, licensing, documentation, rather than cost. 90 days or less is easy, any longer and you are dealing with EU/Schengen immigration law issues. There are ways to work around the immigration laws, leaving the EU, leaving the Schengen countries within the EU, but you need to be careful to stay legal to avoid fines or deportation.

My experience with camping in Europe is that it is very different from how we RV in the U.S. Most RV parking or campgrounds are primitive, makes our RV style look like "glamping" which is mostly what it is. There are plenty of places where you can park and camp, but electrical hookups are a maybe, our expected full hookups mostly don't exist, European RVs don't hook up to the residential utility systems we expect. Thus a U.S. RV is a bad fit, no place to dump, because you take your toilet cassette to the restroom to dump it.

For six months to a year, EU immigration laws will be much more of an issue than anything to do with differences in RV lifestyles. I've mostly limited my visits to 60 days or less per trip, no more than two trips a year, some of them in and out of Schengen, even in and out of the E.U. with additional visas. It gets tricky, but I've mostly depended on my tour managers to keep track of the nitty gritty. On your own, you have to know the immigration laws, keep track of the details. Going from country to country is not the same as going state to state in the U.S., even with E.U., when you are not an E.U. citizen.
Tom Test
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RobertRyan
Explorer
Explorer
rv2go wrote:
This may be an option.

While staying at Liberty Harbor, I met a couple from Germany. Their travel plans was to come to the States and buy a B. They would then tour the States and Canada for several months. After their tour they would ship the B from Nova Scotia to Germany. They stated that they could sell the B for more that it cost in the US. They had been doing this several times, ever other year.

I failed to mention that the couple would book passage on the freighter that was transporting the B

Here Rentals are the way to go. Electrics and compliance are already the same as here.
Seeing B's in Europe and the US use the same European chassis( with the exception of Ford Econoline based units) I would be surprised they would be more expensive

valhalla360
Nomad III
Nomad III
buta4 wrote:
What about the electrics? Fittings, 240,etc?

Propane fittings are different also, I think.


Get a big 240v battery charger and an inverter. Realistically most places you can't run air/con due to limited power. Most Euro RVs don't even have it.

You can get adapters but there isn't a single EU standard so you will need to get different tanks in some countries. Another hassle but doable.
Tammy & Mike
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buta4
Explorer
Explorer
What about the electrics? Fittings, 240,etc?

Propane fittings are different also, I think.
Ray

valhalla360
Nomad III
Nomad III
Totally forgot. Google Schengen Visa.

The RV is the easy part.
- Pay 20% VAT and it can stay indefinitely. But as non-EU resident, you can get 18 months Temporary Import Relief and that can be reset by leaving the European Customs Area for a day. Morocco, Switzerland, Norway, Baltics, Turkey. You can also extend the Temporary Import by putting the RV in bond (basically an official seals it and until they unseal, you get more time added to the clock.

Visas are a bigger issue. For a typical USA resident, you get an automatic schengen visa good for any 90 days out of the last 180. So 6 months continuous is problematic. UK, Ireland, Morocco, Some of the Balkan states or into the old former Russian states but there is no 1 day out and the clock resets.

If you google Schengen visa and cruising, you will find a lot of discussion regarding this in relation to boats but it works pretty much the same way for RVs.

PS: If you do buy in Europe, require written receipt of VAT paid status. If you can't prove the VAT was paid, you may be on the hook for 20%+ of the RV value. Most RVs should already be VAT paid (it's a one time tax not at every sale) but they may have lost it or it may have come from outside the customs zone.
Tammy & Mike
Ford F250 V10
2021 Gray Wolf
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valhalla360
Nomad III
Nomad III
DownTheAvenue wrote:
Have you researched camping in Europe? Have you seen campgrounds in Europe? Unless you approach your dream with eyes wide open, you will be very very surprised!!!! European campgrounds are nothing like in North America, and there are not as many scattered around.


They are very different but there are tons of campgrounds including major cities where you can connect into the transit system.
Tammy & Mike
Ford F250 V10
2021 Gray Wolf
Gemini Catamaran 34'
Full Time spliting time between boat and RV

DownTheAvenue
Explorer
Explorer
Have you researched camping in Europe? Have you seen campgrounds in Europe? Unless you approach your dream with eyes wide open, you will be very very surprised!!!! European campgrounds are nothing like in North America, and there are not as many scattered around.

valhalla360
Nomad III
Nomad III
We followed the blog of a couple who shipped over to Europe. There are still some hassles to deal with:
- You can register in your home state.
- This was some years ago but I believe it was only about $3k to ship.
- Insurance needed a little research.
- They did have a Mercedes style Class C, so parts and repairs were less of an issue.
- If you buy in Europe, Registration is an issue. There are some work arounds but not real clean.


See the link below to their blog.
http://www.theroadgoeseveron.com/shipping-an-rv-to-europe
Tammy & Mike
Ford F250 V10
2021 Gray Wolf
Gemini Catamaran 34'
Full Time spliting time between boat and RV

magicbus
Explorer
Explorer
Chris Bryant wrote:
Good point. You very well could buy here and ship over and sell for a profit.
Buying in Europe and bringing here would probably have emissions issues.

Dave
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Chris_Bryant
Explorer II
Explorer II
Good point. You very well could buy here and ship over and sell for a profit.
-- Chris Bryant

rv2go
Explorer II
Explorer II
This may be an option.

While staying at Liberty Harbor, I met a couple from Germany. Their travel plans was to come to the States and buy a B. They would then tour the States and Canada for several months. After their tour they would ship the B from Nova Scotia to Germany. They stated that they could sell the B for more that it cost in the US. They had been doing this several times, ever other year.

I failed to mention that the couple would book passage on the freighter that was transporting the B
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