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kereams
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Feb 09, 2015

Seattle RV Show

They had 4 Class B vans at the show. One Roadtrek (Adventurous), one red Travato, the seriously overpriced Airstream and the Winnebago ERA 70 with the slide. This was among an ocean of trailers, C's and A's. The sheer volume of RV's with such a low count of B's was pretty disappointing.
  • I was disappointed that they didn't have more parts vendors like those for furniture, generators, upgraded suspension technology, demand water heaters, etc.
  • The reason for the low number of B's is that we are a serious minority. The last I heard was that we comprise about 5 percent of the RV population. The dealers are going to sell what sells.
  • Ten years ago you couldn't find a Class B that was $100,000.00 plus. Today there are only a few that are under that figure, even the Lexor and 190 models have MSRP's real close to $100,000.00 if not over that for 2015. Incomes have not gone up that much and there are not that many buyers out there willing to spend that much on a RV. We bought our first new Class B in 2001 and initially it was a shock looking at the price of it sitting very near new Class A units priced the same and that comparison holds true today.

    Nick
  • I will second what ScottG said about aftermarket vendors and the RV Shows....At the recent Boise show I was hoping to see a Solar Power vendor, but no one there....I think they are missing out on a potential market! Also there were only two Class B's...A Lexor and a Roadtrek among a sea of trailers and FW's. Disappointing....
  • What you have to understand is RV shows are all about the dealers not about the RV or even the customer.

    The Class B is closer to 2% of the overall RV market and I suspect the customers are a little more savvy than the dealers would like. I know dealers only like to sell on spec fully loaded with options Bs. They sell with greater margins.
  • Yes, vendors were a dissapointment too. More non-RV related vendors than RV specific vendors. Same people you see pushing Ginsu knives and Shamwows at the fair. Sad.
  • charles wrote:
    Ten years ago you couldn't find a Class B that was $100,000.00 plus. Today there are only a few that are under that figure, even the Lexor and 190 models have MSRP's real close to $100,000.00 if not over that for 2015. Incomes have not gone up that much and there are not that many buyers out there willing to spend that much on a RV. We bought our first new Class B in 2001 and initially it was a shock looking at the price of it sitting very near new Class A units priced the same and that comparison holds true today.

    Nick


    That is exactly what happened at the Austin show last time I went there. There was the Airstream "B" sitting there, and 1-2 aisles over, a fully loaded, three axle fifth wheel with all the family-friendly gewgaws like eight (!) LCD TVs. So, people look at the van, look at the 40+ foot fiver, and assume bigger is better.

    As for the price of a "B", they are not cheap, but their cost per mile is the lowest of any rig out there, and their resale value is quite high. In fact, I can't see upfitting a van chassis being cheaper than what Sportsmobile or Winnebago can do without cutting major corners. Decent materials (not even marble, but Corian, wood composites that are water resistant), appliances (especially the new European ones which free up a lot of cubic space) coupled with decent workmanship (wires in bundles and conduits as opposed to being stapled willy-nilly, as well as PEX pipe used with ProPEX fittings which won't leak compared to the crimp fittings in common use) can't be done for much less in price than what a Travato costs.
  • kereams wrote:
    Yes, vendors were a dissapointment too. More non-RV related vendors than RV specific vendors. Same people you see pushing Ginsu knives and Shamwows at the fair. Sad.


    My husband has been lamenting for a week now that we didn't have time to go down to Seattle (we're in Bellingham) for the show.

    So I just read him your paragraph above. He's officially over it. :)