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Which old motorhome to buy

RAMwoodworks
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The Mrs and I are considering building a skoolie vs getting and older RV and fixing up what needs to be fixed.

If we go the motorhome route we would want one preferably with Cummins and an Allison. Definitely don't want any new computerized ****.

Then there is the walls and floor. I know that Travel Trailers are just styrofoam covered with Luan. We want to avoid that as well.

The question is, were there any motorhomes built with real framing, either metal or wood, with a drivetrain that was built to last?

Yes, we want an EM50 UAV.
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TechWriter
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jeromep wrote:
There are a lot of good, used, class A rigs at varying price points, and the older units which are still fully driveable and haven't had the snot beat out of them will give you a much better RVing experience than taking a schoolie shell and building it from scratch.

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jeromep
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There are a lot of good, used, class A rigs at varying price points, and the older units which are still fully driveable and haven't had the snot beat out of them will give you a much better RVing experience than taking a schoolie shell and building it from scratch.

Any older class A that you look at, especially if it is 15, 20, even 25 years old is going to need some work. There will be delayed maintenance unless you find the perfect seller that kept all of it up, but just couldn't use it anymore. Those are pretty rare and go fast. But if you find one that is in decent condition there will be delayed maintenance in some areas that you have to work through. I picked up a much older class A last year. The house was in great condition, but there was a lot of delayed chassis maintenance that cost me a bit, along with the rig needing a new roof. But after spending the money on the chassis and the new roof, I still spent a whole lot less than buying a new rig or buying a used late model rig, and I was able to get out there and camp very quickly after dealing with the chassis repairs.

mountainkowboy
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We looked for over 10 months for aa pre 2008 class A, at least for a price I was willing to pay. We found out 07 on a little dealer lot. It had some issues, but nothing that wasn't easily fixed. We picked it up for 18K under NADA, when most were 10%-20% over NADA. The deals are out there if you look every day.

As others have said, unless your going to do suspension mods, the class A will ride MUCH MUCH better.
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LouLawrence
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If you have the budget and don't need a slide-out, there are some excellent late 90's Prevost available. It will be worth a whole lot more when you sell it down the road. You simply cannot own a better coach. I just sold my '88 and upgraded to a '98. Will keep this one until I can't RV any longer.

Sandia_Man
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There are always some well built, older class A rigs on the market, just have to be diligent in locating one before it gets sold. We first spent many months driving a variety of class a rigs in our state to figure which drivetrain, chassis, and floorplan would suit our needs best.

Once we knew what we wanted we stayed on course and searched the country, most were in FL, TX, and AZ as snowbirds would sell their rigs and stay permanently. Was quite a challenge as these units didn't last long on the market, not living in these states we couldn't close the deal fast enough.

Finally, we found a rig in TX and the private owners were willing to wait for us to look at it first. This was while covid was raging though TX July 2020, could not find anyone willing to do an inspection. Thankfully, we stayed 3 nights on their ranch, we were able to drive and test all systems thoroughly.

way2roll
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What's your budget? That will certainly narrow your focus and provide more meaningful responses.

One thing for sure, if you build your own, you will know every nut and bolt. My wife wanted me to build a skoolie and I talked her out of it. While pretty cool, they ride awful and have almost no storage. Let alone that everything needs done. Meaning, unlike an MCI or prevost with multiple AC's, outlets, and a bathroom already, in a skoolie you will need to handle all of the electrical, HVAC and plumbing. The other thing to consider is that while one-off's and totally unique are cool, you'll never get your money back out of it. It will be a labor of love. RV's are never an investment but most folks buying RV's lean to production models with a greater support. It will be a labor of love. And nothing wrong with that provided you have realistic expectations.

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ferndaleflyer
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Got a couple of women in NC building skoolies for sale ready to go. Read about it in the Our State Magazine.

Chum_lee
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RAMwoodworks wrote:
The Mrs and I are considering building a skoolie vs getting and older RV and fixing up what needs to be fixed.



It depends a lot on your skill level. Most aging school buses have windows down the full length on both sides. The body structure and weight reflects that. Making your new floor plan coordinate with the window spacing is a challenge as well as removing and plugging the windows if you go that route. (water and air leaks) Most school buses aren't designed for basement storage, IMO, a HUGE negative in a Class A. At some point, if you don't have basement storage, . . . . IMO, you'll wish you did.

That said, I've seen some very nice older MCI tour bus conversions. See youtube. Just remember that everything in the bus is custom made, there's only 1, and other than what you create, generally there's no support network on the road. Getting RV's repaired properly is a job in itself, IMO, most repair techs RUN (away) when these type of vehicles show up in their shop.

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chast
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Definitely the older class A route! If you have never seen or heard of a Barth, suggest you visit www.barthmobile.com.
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phillyg
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Newmar and Foretravel come to mind. Also know there are some snooty campgrounds that don't like converted school busses, no matter how good they've been done.
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ronbiel
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I totally agree about the pre-2008 comment. Also, a used med-high end one is a good choice.

Tom_Barb
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https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/rvd/d/lake-oswego-2005-country-coach-inspire/7382519517.html

I'd be looking at some thing like this/...
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dodge_guy
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Pre 08 class A or super C is the way to go. Super C`s were new just coming around so not sure they will be available pre 08. I wouldn`t want to drive farther than 100 miles in a school bus. I would also check into older MCI conversions.
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haste_maker
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Look for an RV that was made before 2008...if you can get it for a good price...fit it up & have fun...
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ferndaleflyer
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My Monaco is a 1998 and I wouldn't trade it for a new one. 36 ft and built to last. I have put about 91K on it and the only thing thats wrong is the dash a/c has to be charged every now and then. But I have kept it inside and well maintained inside and out. These are a little pricey even now after all these years.....No to a skoolie!